I have been reading older threads and trying to muddle through a lot of very interesting material. One thing that I have had a lot of trouble with is hitting the ball (or swinging the club) on the left arm plane (as I called it) or the right forearm plane. I came across is a thread titled "Bending the plane". Very educational. I am still not entirely clear but the fog is lifting. The right forearm plane seems more natural for me and more powerful, but I do not understand the mechanics involved in it. I have to "swing left" as opposed to down the target line, but I really need to learn and understand hinging, and how to perform each one. Does it matter if you are hitting or swinging? is there an advantage/disadvantage of one over the other?
I know I don't have to be a PhD to hit the golf ball really well, but boy do I feel really stupid as I poke around the old threads here.
If anyone has any direction with this topic please feel free to point me in a proper direction.
Thanks
I am obsessed with learning about the Magic of the Right Forearm, in particular as interpreted by YODA and the folks here at LBG. I have put together several documents to help me study. They consist of posts by Yoda and other members of this forum and their ideas. You, or any of my other friends at LBG are welcome to download these from my public page anytime. I have tried very hard to credit the proper poster in the title of each article, hopefully I didn't miss anybody.
The articles that pertain to your question would be contained in:
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7
9
11
12
13
That should keep you busy for awhile!
Kevin
Originally Posted by scottcuban
Hey all,
I have been reading older threads and trying to muddle through a lot of very interesting material. One thing that I have had a lot of trouble with is hitting the ball (or swinging the club) on the left arm plane (as I called it) or the right forearm plane. I came across is a thread titled "Bending the plane". Very educational. I am still not entirely clear but the fog is lifting. The right forearm plane seems more natural for me and more powerful, but I do not understand the mechanics involved in it. I have to "swing left" as opposed to down the target line, but I really need to learn and understand hinging, and how to perform each one. Does it matter if you are hitting or swinging? is there an advantage/disadvantage of one over the other?
I know I don't have to be a PhD to hit the golf ball really well, but boy do I feel really stupid as I poke around the old threads here.
If anyone has any direction with this topic please feel free to point me in a proper direction.
Thanks
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I appreciate it. I really appreciate all of the helpfulness that I have encountered on this forum in the short time that I have been a member here. I really think I may have found the answer I was looking for as far as Golf Instruction!
Kev, I just started looking at the stuff you made available and all I can say is WOW! Thank you. This is some GREAT stuff!
Last edited by scottcuban : 04-07-2010 at 10:42 AM.
Most good swings happens on one or two planes, or somewhere inbetween:
The elbow plane: That's the plane you have the club on if you keep your right forearm on the clubshaft plane at address and your right elbow very close to your hip. This plane is often used in combination with a planeshift in the down swing.
The turned shoulder plane: Draw a straight line from the ball to the right shoulder when you've completed your back swing. That's the turned shoulder plane. This plane is slightly steeper than the elbow plane, but it still goes throug the middle of your core. You can still have the right forarm on plane at address & impact, but now there will be more air between your right elbow and your hip.
In any case the left shoulder will be way above the plane at all times, except, perhaps far into the follow through. Therefore the left arm is moving on a very different path than the swing plane (even though the left hand may be on plane). So trying to swing on the left arm plane is a dead end.
Right elbow plane: Yes, but remember that the right elbow is only on plane at address and impact. It goes under the swing plane early in the downswing, gets back to plane at impact and gets over the plane in the finish and follow thru.
Also remember that both shoulders are far above the plane at address and usually at impact too. I haven't measured but I would guess that the swing revolves around the belly button or perhaps a point slightly above it, of course depending on the swing plane you use.
I appreciate it. I really appreciate all of the helpfulness that I have encountered on this forum in the short time that I have been a member here. I really think I may have found the answer I was looking for as far as Golf Instruction!
Kev, I just started looking at the stuff you made available and all I can say is WOW! Thank you. This is some GREAT stuff!
I'm glad you like it Scott. I wish I could take credit, but I'm just good at copy/paste. There are a LOT of smart dudes here at LBG!
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
I'm glad you like it Scott. I wish I could take credit, but I'm just good at copy/paste. There are a LOT of smart dudes here at LBG!
Kevin
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Thanks for sharing. It is always nice to have a different source to review with especially at this time of year when we are just starting to resume golf
Thanks Kevin, forgot about the level left wrist at address. I use adjusted address, and it is really easy to set up with the left wrist out of position. What a difference a level left wrist at address, whether impact or adjusted, it makes maintaining the alignments incredibly easier.
Thanks Kevin, forgot about the level left wrist at address. I use adjusted address, and it is really easy to set up with the left wrist out of position. What a difference a level left wrist at address, whether impact or adjusted, it makes maintaining the alignments incredibly easier.
Yoda's interpretation of Homer = BRILLIANT!
Kevin
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I just wanted to say thanks again and you have me really busy right now! I played 9 holes before work this morning. I hit the ball pretty well as I tried incorporating a few small things into that I have recently discovered. My main fascination right now is Yoda's hit pattern. I printed out the #6.pdf file from your page and I am consuming it. That is where I would like to get to at some point. I know I am setting my sights pretty high, but why not shoot for the moon? lol
It just seems so simple and sfficent yet so powerful. That is my grail, I hope I can get there someday.
Anyway, thank you again.
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