Welcome to the forum. I've been here 6 weeks and don't know so much, but as far as I have understood a chip shot is (can) not (have) a total motion. A total motion is a full swing. A chip is a basic motion - only 2 feet back and 2 feet thru. A half swing is a acquired motion, arms parallel to the ground back and thru.
I started with TGM before 2 month, read the book, but now have many many questions.
What is the relation between golf shot type(chip,pitch,full swing) and the basic motion curriculum stages 1-basic,2-acquired,3-total ?
Could you anybody here explain for example the total motion for chip shot ?
Thank you.
Mike
If you were to match them up:
chip=basic
pitch=acquired
full swing=total.
Disclaimer:
While basic motion is 2 feet back and through a chip could be close to total motion (100 yd chips on a links course). A pitch/sand/flop shot is often total motion. So they really are not one and the same.
The motion for a 100 yards chip shot must at least be acquired or maybe even total, I would think - is then this a chip shot any more? What's the difference between this and a required motion punch shot?
Basic (Stage 1), Acquired (Stage 2) and Total Motion (Stage 3) is a curriculum intended to instruct one in the "Three Zones". Hands, Arms, Pivot. A Wind Instrument musician practices Scales, Arpeggios and Whole Tones.
It may be best to keep them separate from on the course ball striking terminology.
Basic (Stage 1), Acquired (Stage 2) and Total Motion (Stage 3) is a curriculum intended to instruct one in the "Three Zones". Hands, Arms, Pivot. A Wind Instrument musician practices Scales, Arpeggios and Whole Tones.
It may be best to keep them separate from on the course ball striking terminology.
Basic Motion as written in my 6th anyways would not cover "shoulder or pivot putting", a very popular method. What say you D?
Did the 7th make a change in this regard? Maybe as you say Basic is a stepping stone in the "curriculum" to Total Motion rather than an actual method of hitting little chips or putts.
Basic Motion as written in my 6th anyways would not cover "shoulder or pivot putting", a very popular method. What say you D?
Did the 7th make a change in this regard? Maybe as you say Basic is a stepping stone in the "curriculum" to Total Motion rather than an actual method of hitting little chips or putts.
I don't mean that the Motion Curriculum's are stepping stones. I meant that they each specialize in one of the 3 Zones. The Golf Swing is comprised of 3 Zones. Each Zone is trained separately.
Basic Motion: Zone 3 (only move the arms enough to create the Flying Wedges)
#5. Plane Line
#6. Plane Angle – Basic
#7. Plane Angle – Variations
#10. Hinge Action
Acquired Motion: Zone 2 (Added,,,add shoulders only)
#11. Pressure Point Combinations
#18. Left Wrist Action
#19. Lag Loading
#20. Trigger Types
#21. Power Package Assembly Point
#22. Power Package Loading Action
Total Motion: Zone 1 (Added,,,Torso, Hips, knees)
#12. Pivot
#13. Shoulder Turn
#14. Hip Turn
#15. Hip Action
#16. Knee Action
#17. Foot Action
I love the 12-5 The Basic Motion Curriculum. It is the best way I know to differentiate the separate identities of each Zone and the components unique to hitting and swinging and their variations. Right through the bag. A tremendous way to learn the game and polish your short shots at the same time. I like to add various Hinge Actions to the Curriculum for bonus points.
But Im not sure it is necessarily the way to play shorter shots on the course. It can be but not necessarily. In my 6th edition Homer zeroes out the Pivot in Stage One, Basic Motion which includes putting. But for example, I'd venture that most tour pro's use a shoulder powered putting golf stroke. A 10-3-H PAW Minor Basic Stroke as defined by Homer. Im not saying Homer didnt know his short shots Im just wondering if the Basic Motion Curriculum is first and foremost just that ......a curriculum, a "course of study" for Total Motion excellence.
I get Mikes question re Total motion for a chip shot. Most of us use the term "Basic Motion' to describe a chip or putt but Im thinking he must have read 3.0 where Homer says.......
"......."Basic Motion" (Preface) is simply "Up-and-Back-and-Down-and Out" per 7-23 from Drive to Putt. Your "Total Motion" is that Basic Motion plus its Component Variations (Chapter 10)-selected and/or othewise (Chapter 12). Whatever you are "working on" must produce a change In Feel because its a selected addition to your previous Total Motion Feel-your "Acquired Feel", the present stage of your Total Motion development."
Ah, is it just me ? Is your head hurting? Are there two different definitions for the term "Basic Motion" or have we misappropriated it to mean chipping and putting? Why not just say Stage One , Chipping and Putting? Stage Two , Pitch shots or whatever......each with a Basic Motion plus whatever Component Variation you are working on which forms a new Total Motion with its Acquired Feel. Or something. I dunno........
Me, having started with the Neeman video...... I go with Basic being "about" two feet back and two feet through. Acquired is "no more than" Right Forearm parallel to the ground to the club being 45 degrees to the ground ........etc
I put the brackets around "about" and "no more than" because early on I missed those subtleties and was using the exact same length of stroke in each Stage and varying the Lag Pressure for distance regulation.
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