I am coming to a fork in the road and I will take it. Being up here in Robert Frost Country. If I was down in Joel Chandler Harris country I would say , Throw me in that briar patch Mr. fox.
The explanation is likely simple but I don't know why.
TGM says:
I paraphrase......... Develop in accord to Chapter #9. That means Zone #1 FIRST, then Zone #2, Then zone #3 Doesn’t It?
Homer states in the Preface a recommended approach to the book. Nowhere does it get to 12-5. Why do we start there? Shouldn’t we have the recommended understanding developed first?
I would like to spend more time on the complete motion. I find it harder to add more components and longer stroke than to shorten the longer stroke and practice the "more basic" .
Why does the teaching I see not follow Homers instructions?
I am coming to a fork in the road and I will take it. Being up here in Robert Frost Country. If I was down in Joel Chandler Harris country I would say , Throw me in that briar patch Mr. fox.
The explanation is likely simple but I don't know why.
TGM says:
I paraphrase......... Develop in accord to Chapter #9. That means Zone #1 FIRST, then Zone #2, Then zone #3 Doesn’t It?
Homer states in the Preface a recommended approach to the book. Nowhere does it get to 12-5. Why do we start there? Shouldn’t we have the recommended understanding developed first?
I would like to spend more time on the complete motion. I find it harder to add more components and longer stroke than to shorten the longer stroke and practice the "more basic" .
Why does the teaching I see not follow Homers instructions?
The Bear
mr bear, i am with you. i have seen tgm instructors for years teach basic and aquired. most students can get those motions rather well. then the studint moves to the full swing and all hell breaks loose they never master the full swing. ok, you can say they never mastered the basic or aqulired. then i say, that learning the basic and aquired as taought now by most tgm people is not working for the masses. so, how do we change the teaching process? i do not know how the book says to teach the progression. but you may have the answer in your question.
Understanding the concept makes the doing much easier that is for sure. Most golfers want to learn from the driver to the putter. Yet understanding how the short swings function, geometry and power, with the least number of moving parts to see and feel what is going on, is what real learning is based upon.
When learned properly in sequence moving up the power chain means you are only adding an extra part or two onto something that was already mastered. Fail to master means more room to screw up - and golfers do to often chase the dream of the long ball just too fast.
12-5 offers the instructor and student all the opportunity in the world to visit each of the components in a practical manner as per the para phrase above.
I like basic motion . . . .HOWEVER . . . . you can't play golf with JUST basic motion . . . . you can have the most educated hands in the world but if your pivot is like a mouth breathing short skool bus riding doofus . . . you got no chance . . . . you pivot can override your hands. Learn to hit the short shots and how the hand motions work with basic motion yes . . . .but I'd suggest learning to hit HARD punch shots along with that . . .then there's not a whole lotta progression from there to a full motion . . . better learn to hit the ball hard and far too.
I suspect he does it because he's afraid. So he covers up for his insecurites by trying to takeover the world oblivious to the damage he does. He doesn't get that the hardest thing we do is control ourselves since he is out of control.
I work with lots of kids from the short school bus. Some are third generation. Very sad. Most of them, if they had your gifts, and you had theirs, wouldn't criticize you. They'd offer to tie your shoe or walk you down the hall to the bathroom.
Be the change you want to see.
It's hard to do. Like TGM, it is fun when it works.
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
I like basic motion . . . .HOWEVER . . . . you can't play golf with JUST basic motion . . . . you can have the most educated hands in the world but if your pivot is like a mouth breathing short skool bus riding doofus . . . you got no chance . . . . you pivot can override your hands. Learn to hit the short shots and how the hand motions work with basic motion yes . . . .but I'd suggest learning to hit HARD punch shots along with that . . .then there's not a whole lotta progression from there to a full motion . . . better learn to hit the ball hard and far too.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Thanks Guru and Bucket.
There is somethin in both But if I must pick a fork in the road today I will choose Bucket's. Not that Guru's is any less correct. The scale is tipped by my "personality" or Profile as Dr. CM explains with care. It is not a question of what to do but one of how to manage "ME" to get done what needs to be done. I shall, here again, In spite of my reoccurring thoughts that TGM sometimes provides a Hobsons choice, remind myself that there is no "the way" to it.
IC, we see what is a good "teachable moment" and has now been adequately done. Nuff said.
To any and all;
I dare U throw me into that briar patch Mr. Fox !
Bucket and I are on the same page. If you do not play with power life is too many shots to the green.
How we learn (read your Style) is very very important. How we interpret info via that Style is something that many coaches could improve greatly in terms of how they deliver the same info to different players.
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