I will try to make some sense here. One of my problems that I have addressed is to much slide of the hips on the downswing. I have more control of that and rotate half way decent (until my pivot stalls out, another thread). My hands would often be way out of position at the deliver position from the face on. They still are to an extent even when I make a nice rotation on the downswing without sliding.
Question is I think a big problem that causes is this there is no release for me of #4. Yesterday in the midst of a crappy round I started really pulling with my left arm on the club shaft during the downswing while utilizing a pitch elbow, immediate good ball striking ensued. I assume this is a swingers move. My swing thought was pull down left arm and feel the left hip really act as a wheel. Is this a good procedure for speeding up #4? Is it even worth thinking about?
That's a Hand Throw. Normally used for Sweep Release for non-Pivot strokes. It's a Zone 2 compensation for a Zone 1 timing (alignment) problem.
Is the #4 Accumulator going faster as you say, or are you simply getting to the Ball sooner?
If it works, then use it, but be aware that with the Hand Throw and Pivot combination, you may have a tendency to come over the top. But, just being aware of it may help you prevent it.
That's a Hand Throw. Normally used for Sweep Release for non-Pivot strokes. It's a Zone 2 compensation for a Zone 1 timing (alignment) problem.
Is the #4 Accumulator going faster as you say, or are you simply getting to the Ball sooner?
If it works, then use it, but be aware that with the Hand Throw and Pivot combination, you may have a tendency to come over the top. But, just being aware of it may help you prevent it.
I am so underplane the day I start coming over the top its going to be party time.
Wow this really worked last night. It definitely changed the plane from steep early under late. It took me a half bucket to get the feel down with a different plane angle but it was
1. extensor action on plane backswing using RFP
2. Hip bump
3. pull down hard with left arm/shoulder
4. right elbow as far target ward as possible.
Compression was through the roof with hardly any curve of the ball, ball flew much higher. Encouraging, wish it was during the day to get video.
Like D said, the Left ARm Pull is a Minor Basic Stroke by definition, for short shots.
If on the other hand, if the sensation you are feeling is a pulling of the Right Shoulder Down Plane (which pulls the left shoulder around which pulls the left arm) all done via the Pivot, a Swingers Major Basic Stroke move........and then you are employing a Right Arm Throw....... Drag then Drive in other words.......welcome to 4 barrel Hitting my friend.
It's often really hard to discern what we are really doing. Like D, I have no clue personally.
P.S. I personally can get a little too slidy, double anchor sometimes, the cure for me is to not over bend my legs at address and keep my back foot on the ground through the shot. I try to swing like Moe with both feet planted and hard. With the back foot planted longer you cant slide too far and therefor have to turn. Moe said "You'll never see the spikes on my left foot and you wont see the ones on my right till way late". Its pretty to get the Hips sliding outside of the left foot like this.
Its always an interesting journey. The other day I was working with a buddy of mine and we mostly were working on backswing motion when we both saw how much the club was dumping. It was obvious the hips were stalling badly and the club dumped. So I researched some of the reasons and cures and came up with more of the pulling motion with pitch elbow.
I think you are right that it just moved the shoulder more on plane instead of the teeter taughter motion that is the norm.
I have to do a lot more testing but it just felt like very little effort with a lot of clubhead lag.
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