LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Loading Thread: Loading View Single Post #21 03-06-2005, 11:47 PM Anonymous Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 149 Philly, You really need to checkout Ernie Els book... Where are you coming up with this stuff about manipulating swinging.... I'll take back my comment about manipulating swinging = Right Arm swinging.....based on your comments about manipulated swinging....we're talking about two different things... Philly wrote: Quote: They are entirely different animals. Manipulated refers to the hand location and how that location is arrived at - via centrifugal force only or by manipulating the hands to get to a location. 'Manipulation' is not a negative connotation in this regards. Right arm swinging refers to replacing the left shoulder as the swing center with the right elbow. A right arm swinger could be a manipulated or true swinger . Patrick, We don't disgree....yes, manipulated swinging would be with a non-automatic release....that's what I have been saying....I have been saying that for months now..... DG Anonymous View Public Profile Send a private message to Anonymous Find all posts by Anonymous