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The truth is he did not invent anything. He copied my pure swing guide and put two lasers in a pvc pipe. The green dot laser is nothing special and you can get the same results from a red dot laser or any dot laser.
Two Mag flash lights in a pvc pipe will do a better job and cost $30 tops. It will have some weight to it and kind of feel like a golf club which the Smart Stick does not.
With the Smart Stick or any dot laser trainers you need a mat with lines on it to show you the plane. Smart Stick will sell you that for an extra $50 bucks.
I on the other hand am a true inventor of quality swing trainers and have a 3-D laser trainer that feels like a club and shows you the base line, incline plane and club face rotation throughout the swing without a mat with lines on it.
I was not happy about the knock off my patented pure swing guide but Martin is a friend and I knew it would not affect the sales of the pure swing so I let it go.
Well I decided to patent my own laser trainer and with the patent now approved watch out Smart Stick, I am taking over the laser swing trainer market and if you try to copy this I will take legal action.
Also my 3-D laser swing trainer retails for less than a $100.
See you at the 2009 PGA Show in Orlando. I have a 10x20 booth at the front of the Teaching & Training Aids section.
The 3-D laser swing trainer is one of four new swing trainers I am showing that is going to open many eyes at the Show.
John W Rohan-Weaver G.S.E.M.
Was this post written to me, Tom or to Martin? You sound like a jilted (true) inventor. No need to take me to court, besides you will be too busy being the king of laser trainers- a concept you first developed I guess. Besides I thought Mike Austin invented everything. I was very impressed with Tom Paul and his Smart Stick. The GREEN lasers are a major improvement over the red lights (or mag lights). If I were to buy a training aid not found at Home Depot- the Smart Stick would be it regardless of yours. Tracing the straight plane line is all I need to know- I monitor my hands.
You both copied from me. Before your pure swing i used a walking cane and flashlights and got the same results.
The point is these ideas have been around long before all of us began playing golf. I applaud both you and Tom for refining them and bringing them to market.
Don't try to beat um' join um' and we'll all help people play better golf.
I doubt you got the same results but I get your opinion. I don’t have a problem with improvement of swing trainers and welcome it, but I do have a problem with people who knock of patents that someone has worked hard and spend a lot of time and money for.
The Smart Stick is not the only swing trainer to knock off one of mine. David Leadbetter has done the same with his swing setter but his advertizing has sold many of mine, so that is a good thing. This is my livelihood and I have no problem with competition and I really don’t worry about knockoffs as they are poor imitations of the real deal and are here today and gone tomorrow.
I am going on 13 years of successful development of positive transfer swing trainers and have seen many try and fail. It takes more than just looking like the product as there are many things one does not see for the balance and feel of the swing trainer that make it an effective positive transfer swing trainer. The smart stick will have a short marketing success and then you will not hear about it. This is what happens with most training aids. I have seen many come and go.
As for supporting it even if it was not a knock off, mine is superior as you can hit balls with it and it cost effective for the golfer.
On fgi you called LBG members a bunch of star war freaks when some had more machine knowledge then you. Now you single out individuals. Tom is a stand up guy- knows a lot about the golf stroke and a pleasure to be with. I'd buy his any product he develops- not yours. btw- everyone that came into the teaching center loved his smart stick and enjoyed talking WITH him.
On fgi you called LBG members a bunch of star war freaks when some had more machine knowledge then you.
I think you better get your quotes correct. I have never said that. It is a lie and you should remove from the thread. As for my knowledge on TGM you don't know how much I have so that is another lie.
I think you better get your quotes correct. I have never said that. It is a lie and you should remove from the thread. As for my knowledge on TGM you don't know how much I have so that is another lie.
I know what I read- You were a Manzella guy at the time- that was one of the things he called us.
I've used both devices and met both inventors. As for the two products, they have a similar goal (on plane motion), but different ways of getting there.
They are both quality products.
The Pure Swing will give you the feels of both plane and swivel. It shows the swivel feel (and fanning) far better than similar products. A 'full motion' feel device.
Where the Pure Swing is a 'feel' device, the Smart Stick is a visual device, it will show you where you are on plane/off plane. Useful for 'slow motion' building of feel.
Similar results, different paths of getting there. Both worth checking out.
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I've used both devices and met both inventors. As for the two products, they have a similar goal (on plane motion), but different ways of getting there.
They are both quality products.
The Pure Swing will give you the feels of both plane and swivel. It shows the swivel feel (and fanning) far better than similar products. A 'full motion' feel device.
Where the Pure Swing is a 'feel' device, the Smart Stick is a visual device, it will show you where you are on plane/off plane. Useful for 'slow motion' building of feel.
Similar results, different paths of getting there. Both worth checking out.
EdZ, Thanks for easing the tension on this thread.
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