The thing that I see most of the time is bad rythm. If there's ANY attempt to add more force to the driver, the body might rotate a little too far. For hitting (4 barrel), the startdown is the same as swinging. Then the right shoulder must become the hitters' platform. If the right forearm is not allowed to pass your line of sight, you are left without the proper overtaking. You can hit it off the planet to the right if the startdown is too fast or the overtaking doesn't take place.
yodaluke or someone else, could you go into more detail about this 'right forearm allowed to pass line of sight'??? and overtaking? thanks!
I agree...need more on this--------probably part of the big/small pulley theory etc
............Is there another thread or mini-vid that further explains this, seems to be a common problem with hitters.........
to me it part of haveing slack on the downswing, looseing extensor action as the downswing occurs etc
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Let me give you an analogy, as I've been given the designation by one of my juniors as being the king of analogies.
For those of us that remember vinyl records...
When a hitter attempts to employ the pivot for anything more than the startdown, rythm is lost.
Imagine a record turning around and around. The inside of the record turns at the same RPM's or rate of rotation as the outside. However, the outside of the record is turning at a faster speed, because of it's distance from the center. When a hitter trys to swing and the right shoulder doesn't become a platform, the inside of the record is trying to turn faster than the outside. The record is being warped. Most hitters in this condition, hit it a mile to the right. The right arm never overtakes the line of sight to the ball.
I'll bore you with one more...
A hitter that trys to use centripetal force is like this analogy. Imagine a guy standing at the top of a hill and his truck has stopped running for the last time. He's so tired of it that he's going to push it down the hill. He can either nudge it (#4 accumulator) and let gravity do the rest (#1 accumulator), or he can push it and continue to chase it, trying to push it faster and faster. It sounds rediculous doesn't it? The hitter that wants to get just a little bit more has to be aware that the body ONLY gives the truck a nudge. The body is not an untapped reserve of power. If you continue to chase the truck, you're a closet switter that enjoys the right side of the golf course.
Let me give you an analogy, as I've been given the designation by one of my juniors as being the king of analogies.
For those of us that remember vinyl records...
When a hitter attempts to employ the pivot for anything more than the startdown, rhythm is lost.
Imagine a record turning around and around. The inside of the record turns at the same RPM's or rate of rotation as the outside. However, the outside of the record is turning at a faster speed, because of it's distance from the center. When a hitter trys to swing and the right shoulder doesn't become a platform, the inside of the record is trying to turn faster than the outside. The record is being warped. Most hitters in this condition, hit it a mile to the right. The right arm never overtakes the line of sight to the ball.
I'll bore you with one more...
A hitter that trys to use centripetal force is like this analogy. Imagine a guy standing at the top of a hill and his truck has stopped running for the last time. He's so tired of it that he's going to push it down the hill. He can either nudge it (#4 accumulator) and let gravity do the rest (#1 accumulator), or he can push it and continue to chase it, trying to push it faster and faster. It sounds rediculous doesn't it? The hitter that wants to get just a little bit more has to be aware that the body ONLY gives the truck a nudge. The body is not an untapped reserve of power. If you continue to chase the truck, you're a closet switter that enjoys the right side of the golf course.
You may, in fact, be the king of analogies . Those were great. The truck on the hill especially clears some fog for me, personally.
The right arm never overtakes the line of sight to the ball.
Ted,
Congrats on your good play! Could you please expand on the above? Is there a book reference on this?
Thanks man!
Richard
6-B-1-C speaks to maximum trigger delay. The right elbow passes the line of sight to the ball before release.
In my own teaching experience, I find that many have such poor rythm that this mistake being made (bad rythm) is assumed to be clubhead lag. In fact, I was taught in my early golf lessons that the body had to 'outrun' the clubhead. I was taught swinging with angled hinging. (Swing as hard as you can to the left and hold on for dear life - that's what I gained from the instruction.)
Lag PRESSURE occurs when a greater force than the momentum of the clubhead is applied to the handle, instead of the 'drag and hold.' Drive the handle is the feeling I have now. Remember, in hitting, we're not trying to outrun anything. We're trying to drive the handle so far ahead of the ball that the clubhead couldn't catch up, even if it wanted to do so.
As far as RPM's go, the body doesn't have to travel very fast to stay ahead of the hands. The hands are to far away from the body on the radius of the left arm, that they have to travel very fast to keep up with a turning body. As far as four barrel hitting goes, the body stops just as quicly as it starts. The right shoulder becomes a platform.
Since I'm on the analogy kick about rythm, here's another:
You're in a Ferrari, and I'm in an E-Z-GO golf car. We have to do a lap around a track to see who wins. I can be the winner if my track is 1/32 the size. The body is the E-Z-GO. It doesn't have to travel around very fast to get around it's track. However, the hands (the Ferrari) have to travel much faster on the larger track, just to keep up with the body. Lastly, the clubhead is a fighter jet. It is capable of traveling at the greatest speed, but it has to travel on a much bigger circle.
I'm sorry about all the analogies, but I wake up at three in the morning thinking about this stuff. Am I sick??
Since I'm on the analogy kick about rhythm, here's another:
You're in a Ferrari, and I'm in an E-Z-GO golf car. We have to do a lap around a track to see who wins. I can be the winner if my track is 1/32 the size. The body is the E-Z-GO. It doesn't have to travel around very fast to get around it's track. However, the hands (the Ferrari) have to travel much faster on the larger track, just to keep up with the body. Lastly, the clubhead is a fighter jet. It is capable of traveling at the greatest speed, but it has to travel on a much bigger circle.
I'm sorry about all the analogies, but I wake up at three in the morning thinking about this stuff. Am I sick??
Nope....i have one better for you that just came to me from your discussion:
Apply what YodasLuke said above to a RUNNERS TRACK RACE.....(not sprints)
Why do the runners get placed at different starting points on the CIRCULAR TRACK? With the innner most track runner starting further back than the outter most track runner?
Anyone have a lightbulb go on yet?
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6-B-1-C speaks to maximum trigger delay. The right elbow passes the line of sight to the ball before release.
Lag PRESSURE occurs when a greater force than the momentum of the clubhead is applied to the handle, instead of the 'drag and hold.' Drive the handle is the feeling I have now. Remember, in hitting, we're not trying to outrun anything. We're trying to drive the handle so far ahead of the ball that the clubhead couldn't catch up, even if it wanted to do so.
As far as RPM's go, the body doesn't have to travel very fast to stay ahead of the hands. The hands are to far away from the body on the radius of the left arm, that they have to travel very fast to keep up with a turning body. As far as four barrel hitting goes, the body stops just as quicly as it starts. The right shoulder becomes a platform.
FANTASTIC post! The bolded section is strong like bull. A few follow-questions. As a Hitter are you attempting to achieve Maximum Trigger Delay in the #1 Accumulator since a the hitter is using the Punch Basic Stroke? Can you achieve Max Trigger delay in Punch elbow?
Also 6-C-0 states: Every Lagging Component places a Drag on its preceding Component, which is proportional to the Rate of Acceleration of the leading component.
What does DRAG mean in this context and particularly in relation to Hitting? I know there is Drag Loading which is a swing procedure. Also Mr. K references "dragging a wet mop" for Drive Loading. Are we talking two types of Drag here? Is their Drag in Hitting?
. Those were great. The truck on the hill especially clears some fog for me, personally.
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