The only way to have a camera view that LOOKS consistent, is to have a FIXED MOUNT, AND CONSTANT BALL POSITION. Face on is not quite as difficult, but down the line views are nearly impossible to get the same day to day. Slight variations in height ,zoom, angle, and position can make the view look different.

The LOOK of the swing plane view can change drastically with different camera positions. Put the camera on the target line... and the plane will LOOK more shallow. Put the camera more towards the stance line, and the plane will LOOK steeper. The height of the camera will also affect this.

Put the camera ON PLANE. To get it right... the idea of lining up two shafts on A GOLF PLANE ANGLE ( EXACTLY AT THE SAME ANGLE), then looking through the lens and adjusting the camera position until one SEES one shaft is thought by many to be a good way to get this close.

The PLAYER also must be aimed and aligned square to the target line. If, for example, he is aiming a little left and playing a fade, his plane will LOOK steep.

I have heard that Jim McLean puts his cameras ON the target line. I'm not sure what height, but always the same. He is a least looking at the swings the same way every time.

Also... when the PLAYER, changes from shorter to longer clubs, there should be an adjustment, because the relationship of the camera to the hands changed, as well as the plane of the shaft angle. That is, if you want the camera on plane.

HANDS HIGH, BEHIND THE HANDS... IS THOUGHT BY MANY TO BE THE PROPER PLACEMENT.

If one is using a camera to check their plane... it can be tricky. If not done correctly, one may not SEE very close to REALITY, AND MAKE INCORRECT ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON A FALSE, OR MISLEADING READING.

HOPE THIS HELPS.

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Bagger,

I reeally enjoy all of your post. I would like to introduce myself. I am new to posting but have been involved with TGM for many years. I am an AI, G.S.E.M. I am looking forward to contributing to this forum. And hopefully meeting you somewhere down the line.

I've also been teaching for 18 years always with the use of camera's I've tried every angle possible.

Lagster is right on. Put the camera ON-PLANE.

Hunter

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Hunter,

Thanks for the introduction and Welcome!!!

It's always a huge pleasure having AI's participating here. I appreciate everyone's feedback on the camera setup question.

It's important to us as we prepare the site as a full-fledged interactive teaching site, that we give proper instruction to students for camera setup. As we bring the ability to upload swings for analysis, it's important to get the video done correctly. I've seen a great deal of mis-interpretation of video due to camera angle and we want to avoid that.

Keep on posting Hunter and welcome to our little Cyber Country Club.


Bagger

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something didnt work so i posted again

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here you go - i will leave it to others to comment on accuracy.

Video camera setup for videoing golf swing.

If I missed any that you know are currently available then please post here or email me at chrisj@zip.com.au. I will update the list and repost.

http://www.modelgolf.com/Common/videoinstructions.asp

click on For a list of these requirements, mailing information, and camera setup and filming information, go to the Download Video Swing Instructions page.

http://www.v1golf.com/consumer/learning_center.asp

click on V1 Pro then recording a video

http://www.mypro.chuckevansgolf.com/software.html

http://www.bobmenzies.com/video.htm

Croker's is full of errors including typos

Model Golf one is very detailed - others can comment as to accuracy

Chris

Camera Position
 

Quote From Dave Pelz Book, he likes the camera 24" inside the target line and 36" above the ground. For what's worth.

down the line hand high shoot through the hands at your target face on perpindicular hands high pretty simple hope this helps

Videos and Teaching
 

One of the dangers, as pointed out here, is that camera angle, especially due to the foreshortening of the field can be very deceptive. My experience has been that the best video analyis is done in an inside studio environment that has been carefully set up to be the same way every time. Setting up the cameras (down the line and face on views) and taking them down day after day introduces all the errors spoken of here. If you are going to build a video setup outside, it is a good idea to build a template for the set up, such as sewn together straps (like seat belt material) which can be nailed into the dirt, taut and square, as a reference grid for your cameras. This will really help......


Justathought,

Obi WunPutt