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6bmike 02-27-2006 11:14 AM

I think most shift to the turned shoulder plane or the squared shoulder plane, either with a single from elbow upward to the 'shoulders' or even double returning back to elbow. How the hands are set at address will help your chosen swing plane, too.

I often hear that Watson "single planed" on one of the shoulder planes but watch the vids (although time changes people swings), he started on elbow and single shifted (quickly) to the shoulder, turned , I think.

Don't get trapped into thinking a shift is no-no. If it feels right, do it.


Charlie Parker was "Bird"

mb6606 02-27-2006 11:22 AM

Looks like VJ is on the elbow plane at impact.

jim_0068 02-27-2006 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606
Looks like VJ is on the elbow plane at impact.

VJ is a double shifter like me:

sets up on the elbow plane
shifts to the turned shoulder plane on the backswing (1)
shifts back down to the elbow plane on the downswing (2)

mattsdad 03-02-2006 03:12 PM

No Shift
 
Does anyone have photos or links to a swing with Zero shift?

FL-John 03-02-2006 05:32 PM

MattsDad:

Toms in the above pictures is pretty close....you can also view this link which shows Ted Fort (Luke the Nuke aka YodasLuke) from here on the site.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/assets/...eAnalysis.html

He stays pretty close to zero shift.

mattsdad 03-02-2006 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL-John
MattsDad:

Toms in the above pictures is pretty close....you can also view this link which shows Ted Fort (Luke the Nuke aka YodasLuke) from here on the site.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/assets/...eAnalysis.html

He stays pretty close to zero shift.

Thanks. I'll take a look at Ted's swing.

Regarding Toms, the sweetspot stays pretty close to the turned shoulder plane throughout (just slightly higher at End), but the shaft starts out much flatter at address. Wouldn't this be a single shift, or does one reference the sweetspot when talking about plane shifts?

RT

Rhythm 03-02-2006 11:10 PM

Jim
 
Jim

"Hogan "looked" flatter because he had SUPER FLEXIBLE wrists that gave him a whole lot of wrist cock with very very little arm swing."

His wrists may have been very flexible. But is was his Right shoulder flexibility that allowed him to get so flat. That is how he was able to get his right forearm vertical at the end of his backswing. Most people do not have that range of motion in their shoulders.

powerdraw 03-03-2006 08:49 AM

could you explain what is right shoulder flexibility? thnxs

comdpa 03-03-2006 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike
Don't get trapped into thinking a shift is no-no. If it feels right, do it.

I share the same sentiments as Mike here. At times, I do teach a shift to the elbow plane if it helps the student drive the right shoulder down the plane instead of around it.

It's like what Peter Drucker used to say, "Manage by exception, not by rule."

mb6606 03-03-2006 05:02 PM

Hogan's secret (three letter word) is found in this clip
http://www.megspace.com/sports/moeto...demo_clip.html.


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