For those who use Standard Wrist Action (i.e. most Swingers), do you perform this move consiously or let CF do it? Do you find by using a very pure Right Forearm Pickup move, you end up with more of a Single Wrist Action, which means no Start up Swivel? Any thoughts?

TT must have been a poor communicator!
 

Eight students say that Tomasello told them to start the BS with the right hip and all eight MISINTERPRETED?:confused:

My friend Jim Percherke a Footjoy Rep in DC Area was a student of a Tommy throughout his college career...just told me today....that Tommy told him quote...."Listen Pally...You can't withdraw that right hip quick enough...remember withdraw the right hip... raise the right arm ...lower the right arm...zip the left hip" ....We changed it recently.... to a RFT w/ a delayed hip action

Interesting that you bumped into him today....

Annikan...I've got something better...why don't we listen to the MAN himself..

Direct quotes from Tomasello...In Tommy's studio (Deer Track Golf Resort).

The conversation is between DG and Tomasello exactly 12 years...

Tomasello:....for a chip shot it's the forearm (right forearm), then we get to the Pitch shots it's still the right forearm, and then we get a little further back (Full Swing), the right forearm going up pulls the shoulders, the shoulders pull the hips...Now when we reverse that right... (Tomasello demonstrates the forward swing) bang!!! So the forward golf swing is merely a reversal---IN ORDER(Tomasello raises the tone of his voice)...in order see...(right forearm start down)...Alright, now what was the first move when going backward....the forearm.

DG: The Right Forearm

Tomasello: The forearm, the forearm...Now the forearm pulls the shoulders that pulls the hips....

DG: That's your delayed hip action.

Tomasello: You got it....

This debate about Tomasello is stupid, i'm sure he was an extremely talented instructor. TGM is all about OPTIONS and finding the right OPTIONS for your particular student!

Every instructor has preferences but any good instructor will teach the student what works best FOR HIM/HER!

Maybe for you DG it was a RFP technique, maybe for a lot of others it was the standard hip action and elbow plane.

I know personally, that i don't use the eblow plane (at least since the last time i've seen brian, i might be subconsciously using it now, but he'll make that evaluation when i see him again) and do much better on the turning shoulder plane.

Don't modify the student into your preferences, modify your preferences to meet the students!

^^^Hall of fame quote if i don't say so myself

Hmmmmm....interesting comments...at the time of that conversation with Tomasello I hadn't pickup a club yet...that was the first day/morning of my three day school...so, Tomasello's comments were not influenced by my swing....I believe Tomasello's comments/recommendations were on par with stroke patterns 12-1-0 and 12-2-0....look at those two patterns...where do you see standard hip action...and that's coming from Homer.

DG

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I am personally enjoying the civility of this discussion and the restraint shown by all. It is the respectful give-and-take one would expect in a fine club, even when opinions are strongly held.

This is just one more thing that differentiates the LBG Forums from many others. We are like-minded individuals gathered for a common purpose: To learn from and share with others in an atmosphere of comraderie and mutual respect.

Frankly, I am very proud to be part of it.

DG'
I am fine with what Mr.Tomascello taught you...No problemo...And I didn't happen to bump in to Jim Percherke ...I called him to order a pair of #75478 9D Classic Dress Shoes from Footjoy and to thank him for his contribution of 4 more studio chairs for my studio....Our post reminded me of him!!! So thank you for jarring my memory...;)

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Whew...that was a close one! :D

Good place to for someone to explain why tracing a straight plane line in the backswing is Imperative? :confused: