By the way heres a quote from Bobby Clampett today.....

"Here's Mike Weir rehearsing his new move the stack and tilt, working with Mike Bennet and Andy Plummer.......Nice Shot there. Just shows there's a lot of different swing styles out here the key is what happens at impact."

and another quote from earlier in the telecast as they looked at Sergio's Swing....

"Lag is a signature of Sergio's swing you see his left wrist add cock on that downswing and he'll hold that angle into impact. You can also see a forward swing bottom as a result of that lag. The deep part of that divot is four inches in front of the ball, a dynamic you'll see all great ball strikers have."

Spot on.

Sorting Through the Golf Nut's Catalog.

B-Ray

Time changes things
 

When Ben Doyle trained with Mr. Kelly a young man by the name of Don Shaw in the State of Washington was a student as well. He taught TGM for many years and fought the same stigma at the time. I know him and know that he shares the same passion for the "truth" that Lynn has today. However, I think that Mike is correct. Golf was not quite ready yet but time has a way of changing things. At a little driving range out in the sticks in North Western Washington, Mr. Shaw has never wavered from "the truth".

I agree, it does seem that " the computer age approach to golfing perfection" - ie. the subtitle to TGM - did require the internet and home PC to blossom before the word could spread far and wide... now it is gathering pace!:golf:

Although the PGA as an organization has not adopted TGM as it's model, many of it's members are using it. Whether openly or shall we say in the closet. At the 2006 PGA Teaching and Coaching Summit, several of the presenters made direct reference to, and gave credit to TGM. Jim Mclean recognized Ben Doyle as an influence in his development as an instructor, and had Mr. Doyle as a guest instuctor at his school outside of Dallas. Martin Hall's presentation featured many key concepts from TGM. He openly gave credit to TGM and Homer Kelley.

Although, I have used TGM as a source of information, my understanding of was shadowy. To use a metaphor, many of the trees looked familiar, but I didn't know which forest I was in. Mr. Hall's presentation inpired me to seek more information on TGM.

Today, as an A.I., I know that I am in the TGM forest and enjoy exploring it and trying to develop a deeper understanding of it. As a member of the PGA, I am proud of the to be linked with the Association and fellow members. To my fellow members I would advise you to become well versed in TGM. The times are changnging. TGM is the wave of the future. Learn it or become lost in it's wake.

Catch a wave and we're sittin on top of TGM World
 

Surfs Up! Time to hop on my Silver Board!

Bray
 

No problem B-Ray- everyone and anyone can disagree. But just to make sure that we are referring to the same thing- I'll summarize.

1) I don't like the change in his announcing over the last couple of weeks. That would be the part of my post that you really can't disagree with- unless you're me- in my brain- wait a minute- this is heading in Bucket's territory- Nurse get me the doctor.

2) I wasn't saying anything bad about the Golfing Machine- I was just saying that I don't want explanations about the swing interspersed too much into the commentary of the players and the tournament- that is - interspersed in the play by play. I just don't like it. There is a time and place for everthing- I don't want to hear about the mechanics of Michael Jordan's shooting in the last minute of the last game of the NBA finals. And that's what it feels like to ME.

So for me - my post wasn't and isn't about right or wrong- rather I was just expressing my personal reaction to it- based on my viewing preferences. If you love it - that's great! - and I don't say that sarcastically. If you hate blackberry pie and I love it- I'm not going to disagree with your personal assessment of it- In fact, inside I'm really even more happy- since they'll be more for me! :)

Finally, part of my personal assessment and difficulty with it - may be related to the sudden change in an announcer's style (certainly that could be argued i.e. maybe some would say his style, approach hasn't changed- again just my perception). It just seemed that before he was kind of in the background and now he's in my face.

That's just my reaction to it- please ignore it if it doesn't match your reaction to it.

Stuff
 

Stuff= Swing Analyzing. Stuff= Swing Analyzing dispersed at a higher rate than I want to hear it.

Again- Just my reaction based on what I like to see and hear when I watch golf on TV.

Towards A Common Language
 

Bobby and I talked about it at the AT&T Classic in Atlanta last May. He said he was somewhat limited, but that he was 'making progress.'

:)

I'm glad to hear about Yoda's conversation with Bobby it definetly looks like he's making progress. Maybe one day they will talk about the "flying wedges" during a live telecast!!!
Until then I can only say we are all ahead of the curve by studying The Golfing Machine.

Sorting Through the Duffer's Bible.

B-Ray