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okie 04-18-2008 04:13 PM

Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by phimaynard (Post 51999)
Hi Okie
I still have the post and the pictures http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/i...ons/icon12.gif. Do you want me to send a private message ?
Phil


I got 'em...thanks! I missed your response...until today.

Batting 300!

Bagger Lance 04-18-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by joe curtis (Post 52011)
bagger, were you in slidell with the group? if so, what did the three d show on right wrist cock?

Hi Joe - Sorry no, I wasn't.

My sense is that a level right wrist is something we "intend" to keep aligned, but if the clubhead is thrown to the end, it would take a lot of forearm strength to keep the right wrist from cocking. I don't have the eyes to see in Mathews 3D model how the right wrist is cocking assuming the right elbow is in the correct position for the swinger loading the sweetspot.

Likewise, a powerful pivot in the downstroke would increase wristcock and potentially effect the right wrist alignment but in this case, an onplane clubhead/shaft would temper a "wild" right wrist into the release interval.

I'm more concerned about the correct amount of right wrist bend.
I'll be the first to admit I have a lot to learn. :)

Mathew 04-19-2008 05:17 AM

OK ... lets see if this makes it a lil easier to understand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOyoCySTFWc

Jeff 04-19-2008 12:07 PM

Mathew

I find your verbal opening remarks and smirking facial expressions insulting to serious students of the TGM. I also find your video demonstration amateurish. I think that you should at least stand in front of a video camera and perform "real life" golf motion movements instead of sitting in a chair using a book. It is my belief that one can maintain a level right wrist (without right wrist upcocking), while maintaining a constant right wrist bend, during the backswing motion because of three motion phenomena occurring simultaneously - i) the right elbow is folding and ii) the right upper arm is simultaneously rotating at shoulder level and iii) the upper torso is simultaneously rotating in space. If you don't believe that it is possible, then at least produce a video demonstration using a golf club (used in a golf posture) to illustrate your contrary opinion.

Jeff.

Mathew 04-19-2008 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 52034)
Mathew

I find your verbal opening remarks and smirking facial expressions insulting to serious students of the TGM. I also find your video demonstration amateurish. I think that you should at least stand in front of a video camera and perform "real life" golf motion movements instead of sitting in a chair using a book. It is my belief that one can maintain a level right wrist (without right wrist upcocking), while maintaining a constant right wrist bend, during the backswing motion because of three motion phenomena occurring simultaneously - i) the right elbow is folding and ii) the right upper arm is simultaneously rotating at shoulder level and iii) the upper torso is simultaneously rotating in space. If you don't believe that it is possible, then at least produce a video demonstration using a golf club (used in a golf posture) to illustrate your contrary opinion.

Jeff.

First of all, my opinion is not a contrary position - it is the correct position. Its fact!

Secondly any serious student of TGM would 'think' and test their idea of the golfing machine text to see if they have the right perception. A serious student doesn't just learn the words without really understanding them. I haven't insulted one serious student of the golfing machine. A serious student should be delighted with listening to me.

Thirdly you are another person who is incapable of taking an intraspective look at the golf stroke. I mean seriously what on earth has the 'upper torso' got to do with this discussion...we are talking about the power package alignments with regards to the right arms mechanics. Stay ontopic if you are capable...

Fourthly - don't tell me what to do. I do these videos with my webcam inorder to better put across my answers and its just as quick as typing out a post. Just tell me whats in it for me to make a production quality video at my own expense and time. The reason I do these is for the fact that it is quick and easy.

Daryl 04-19-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathew (Post 52036)
First of all, my opinion is not a contrary position - it is the correct position. Its fact!

Secondly any serious student of TGM would 'think' and test their idea of the golfing machine text to see if they have the right perception. A serious student doesn't just learn the words without really understanding them. I haven't insulted one serious student of the golfing machine. A serious student should be delighted with listening to me.

Thirdly you are another person who is incapable of taking an intraspective look at the golf stroke. I mean seriously what on earth has the 'upper torso' got to do with this discussion...we are talking about the power package alignments with regards to the right arms mechanics. Stay ontopic if you are capable...

Fourthly - don't tell me what to do. I do these videos with my webcam inorder to better put across my answers and its just as quick as typing out a post. Just tell me whats in it for me to make a production quality video at my own expense and time. The reason I do these is for the fact that it is quick and easy.

Mathew,

I'm a serious student. You're insulting, rude and immature.

Delaware Golf 04-19-2008 05:06 PM

What I've Seen.....
 
From what I've seen on video. There may be some confusion between the right wrist being level and uncocked!!! In it's normal address position level and straight...the right wrist may appear to looked slightly cocked (looking at the wrist from a normal visual vertical condition)....but it's level (when viewed from a horizontal condition). It's the natural condition of the right wrist....actually for both wrists.

DG

hg 04-19-2008 07:54 PM

Definitions per Webster & Homer
 
Some definitions so we are all on the same page.

serious- thoughtful or subdued in appearance or manner.
student- one who directs zeal at a subject.
insulting- to treat with insolence, indignity, or contempt.
rude- lacking refinement or delicacy.
immature- lacking complete growth, differentiation, or development.
left wrist action- see 10-18
right wrist action-?

:)

Florida Lefty 04-19-2008 09:33 PM

Good to have an adult show the way. As a serious lurker much info is gained
when we stay mannerly and encouraging.
Bob

hg 04-19-2008 10:47 PM

Mr. Hogan's Action from DTL
 
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How's Mr. Hogan's RFT & RF tracing the plane line ...it's pretty impressive:)


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