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drewitgolf 10-30-2008 10:07 AM

Ready for "Prime Time"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GPStyles (Post 57106)
Its the North London derby tonight and the latest episode of Heroes will be on at 10pm.


Heroes, nice way to refer to Lynn and VJ. Just ask the Petrelli family :laughing1 .

GPStyles 10-30-2008 10:08 AM

Watched the first dvd last night - absolutely brilliant! Anyone who is prevaricating over whether to invest or not, well as Nike say, 'Just Do It!'

Couple of things that I got straight away:

1) How tall is Lynn Blake?!! I reckon about 6'3" at least. No little green guy our Yoda!

2) How good is VJ?!! In the DVD when he was talking about using basic motion to check FLW, hinge action etc he says how most people are trying to check these things using a full motion. To demonstrate he makes a full motion wedge swing and WHOOOOSHHHH!!!! - the sound is just awesome! 3 dimensional all the way!

Now, the things I picked up that will aid my own game:

1) Set up. I am one of the guys Yoda talks about having their head waaaay behind the ball. I am changing my approach to setting up so that this no longer happens.

2) Fanning the right arm on takewaway. You just gotta love the simplicity and perfection of this action. It makes extensor action easier and achieving the FLW at the top simple.


Great, great, great DVD Lynn and VJ. Will watch the drills tonight and maybe even the putting.

Tell you what, we had snow for the first time this winter on Tuesday. Its cold, wet and fairly miserable - I just can't wait to get out and play!!!!!

okie 10-30-2008 12:18 PM

Drill down!
 
The Drill DVD is AWESOME! I have NEVER seen drills divided according to the Three Zones. They way we practice to a large extent determines how we perform "out there" I know of very few people that work on any single thing for a sufficient length of time to develop a recognizable proficiency. Yoda mentioned once that Larry Nelson was still working on right forearm takeaway...ten years later! Now, you can organize your practice time around the three zones. 1 zone per practice session, or all three at different times during the same session. What is important it that their seperate identitites are recognized. How often do you ask someone at the range "Whattaya workin' on?" The reply is usually "Dunno...I freakin' hate this game!" Now you can say "Pivot...working on a flat shoulder turn...using a McD drill" The draw back to that particular drill is that it does not require striking a ball, ergo most people will not do it! This is partly why people make little progress. success is the willingness to bear pain! A sans-ball drill is painful for most of us!

Member challenge - I challenge everyone to keep a tally of the number of executed basic motion shots, especially the snowed-in lot. My guess is that even people who rave about basic motion seldom do it!

I hit 100 yesterday, basking in a sunshine bathed afternoon. It does not count if you do not pre-select a hinge action...then execute it. It also does not count if you don't look, look, look!

So my total stands at 100.

ww 10-30-2008 04:18 PM

Dear Mr Yoda,
Thank you very much for dvd.

ww from PL

okie 10-30-2008 04:49 PM

Query # 1
 
At the point where VJ is demontrating the different plane line/stance line/target line combos he mentions that for draw shot he traces a straight plane line with a closed stance, but with the clubface aimed at the target. It is likely that I have missed something, but when using a horizontal hinge for the purpose of hitting a draw shouldn't the face be slightly open? Conversely the angled hinge for the fade should have the clubface slightly closed, yes?

Comment: Not enough of Lynn Blake's total motion!

Yoda 10-30-2008 10:18 PM

Doin' My Duty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by okie (Post 57148)

Comment: Not enough of Lynn Blake's total motion!


V.J. and I originally envisioned the first disc as a "Basic Motion / short game" video. For those who have seen the DVD, it obviously became far more. Hence, I did not demonstrate a Total Motion Stroke until the situation called for it (Left Wrist Throw Drill / Disc #2).

Nevertheless, there are plenty of Release / Impact / Follow Through alignments explained and demonstrated throughtout the Series.

:)

SwingNorthtoSouth 10-31-2008 03:24 AM

Tall
 
How tall is Lynn Blake, well look at my avatar. How tall am I?
:laughing9 :laughing9

powerdraw 10-31-2008 07:00 AM

got the dvds...going through no.1..amazing. brilliant. my head hurts from all the info, there is much much to absorb in the noodle.

thank you guyz.

okie 10-31-2008 09:19 AM

Yeah...but!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 57158)
V.J. and I originally envisioned the first disc as a "Basic Motion / short game" video. For those who have seen the DVD, it obviously became far more. Hence, I did not demonstrate a Total Motion Stroke until the situation called for it (Left Wrist Throw Drill / Disc #2).

Nevertheless, there are plenty of Release / Impact / Follow Through alignments explained and demonstrated throughtout the Series.

:)

True. But watching expert execution of a right forearm takeaway with a centered and stationary head is fun...as well as encouraging! :salut:

dcg1952 10-31-2008 09:42 AM

Putting
 
I have only watched the putting DVD once. My initial question is whether my putting stroke should influence my selection of putter type. For example, if using a shoulder only stroke with horizontal hinging would a heel/toe balanced putter be better?? Conversely, if I am using a push basic stroke with vertical hinging would a face balanced putter work better?? Or is it all just a matter of preference?? Thanks.

mb6606 10-31-2008 11:48 AM

I was lucky enough to receive one of the MMOC cd's and it is refreshing to know that Lynn has not changed his TGM approach to teaching the golf swing.
VJ demonstates the basic motion but only with a push hitting action - Can basic motion be done as both a hit and a swing? The motion is so short I am not sure if it comes into play.

Ball Turf 11-04-2008 09:29 PM

1st time watching DVD went out posted "81"
 
:golfcart:
Thanks for the video, Yoda. I watched it one time, and I pulled in a 81 at my golf course. This is my best yet! I know I can go lower.

The things I pulled off your Video was to practice the tripod drill and frozen right wrist. And with my right elbow into the picture.

:golf:

Thanks for the wonderful DVD!

Looking forward to seeing more and shooting lower.

Ball Turf

Yoda 11-04-2008 11:19 PM

Gallery of Two
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ball Turf (Post 57368)

:golfcart:
Thanks for the video, Yoda. I watched it one time, and I pulled in a 81 at my golf course. This is my best yet! I know I can go lower.

The things I pulled off your Video was to practice the tripod drill and frozen right wrist. And with my right elbow into the picture.

:golf:

Thanks for the wonderful DVD!

Looking forward to seeing more and shooting lower.

Thank you, Ball Turf! V.J. and I could not be more pleased!

:salut:

Yoda 11-04-2008 11:27 PM

Punch Versus Push Basic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606 (Post 57173)

I was lucky enough to receive one of the MMOC cd's and it is refreshing to know that Lynn has not changed his TGM approach to teaching the golf swing.
VJ demonstates the basic motion but only with a push hitting action - Can basic motion be done as both a hit and a swing? The motion is so short I am not sure if it comes into play.


Thanks for your comments, mb. As always, I appreciate them!

That said, I disagree that V.J.'s Basic Motion action is a Push Basic Stroke. Personally, I think he demonstrates both the Hitting and Swinging strokes with a Fanning Right Elbow -- which suggests, at a minimum, a Punch Basic Stroke -- and this negates the Push Basic Stroke. It cannot be both.

I think that if you saw a Stroke with the Right Elbow kept 'up and out' -- versus 'at the side' or 'down in front' -- and with the Hands kept between the Elbow and the Ball, you would see a tremendous difference.

:salut:

GPStyles 11-05-2008 09:09 AM

For anyone still considering this DVD package I cannot recommend it enough.

I have now decided the optimal way of viewing as well.

Step 1.

Watch all 3 DVDs

Step 2.

From what you have seen you should have a good idea where you have been going wrong, identify the areas most in need of improvement.

Step 3.

Revisit DVD 2 and make detailed notes on the drills you most want to work on.

Step 4.

Go to work!

oh yeah, and keep a log!

alex_chung 11-05-2008 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPStyles (Post 57375)
For anyone still considering this DVD package I cannot recommend it enough.

I have now decided the optimal way of viewing as well.

Step 1.

Watch all 3 DVDs

Step 2.

From what you have seen you should have a good idea where you have been going wrong, identify the areas most in need of improvement.

Step 3.

Revisit DVD 2 and make detailed notes on the drills you most want to work on.

Step 4.

Go to work!

oh yeah, and keep a log!

Agreed with this one. I think I have watched all the way through about twice and keep on revisiting Disc 2 for the drills.
Maybe a visit to B&Q (DIY) store should be on your list as well for dowels, reflector poles, string and PVC tubing :D
Alex

GPStyles 11-05-2008 11:30 AM

The guru could tell you that I have more than enough dowels!

Blade 11-05-2008 11:00 PM

DVD delivery time
 
About how long should the DVD's take to arrive here in Australia from initial order date (looking forward to viewing these so much!)?

Hennybogan 11-06-2008 11:47 AM

DVDs
 
Received the dvd's a few days ago. I have not had time to watch all of them yet, but what I have seen is very well done. I appreciate your effort and accomplishment.

Thanks

stebboko 11-06-2008 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade (Post 57399)
About how long should the DVD's take to arrive here in Australia from initial order date (looking forward to viewing these so much!)?

Mine took 10 days after being posted.

Thoroughly enjoying them Yoda & VJ. Thanks.

Thom 11-06-2008 06:27 PM

Thx
 
The DVDs arrived here in Denmark 5 days after ordering.

I have watched all 3 and must say, I knew it, but what an unbeleivable fine communicator Lynn Blake is.
DVD 1 is so packed with info it makes your head spin, but all of TGM is in there. Some of us have picked it all up here on LBG.com, but this makes it all so much easier for new students to get into TGM. I have tried to get some of my friends into the concepts, but I guess I don't have 1% of the verbal gifts of (the rather tall) Yoda, so I guess I'll just talk them into buying the DVD set instead.

And oooooh I guess I need to fix the mix in my putting stroke:eyes:

Yoda 11-06-2008 10:56 PM

Gettin' It Done
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom (Post 57439)

The DVDs arrived here in Denmark 5 days after ordering.

I have watched all 3 and must say, I knew it, but what an unbeleivable fine communicator Lynn Blake is.
DVD 1 is so packed with info it makes your head spin, but all of TGM is in there. Some of us have picked it all up here on LBG.com, but this makes it all so much easier for new students to get into TGM. I have tried to get some of my friends into the concepts, but I guess I don't have 1% of the verbal gifts of (the rather tall) Yoda, so I guess I'll just talk them into buying the DVD set instead.

And oooooh I guess I need to fix the mix in my putting stroke:eyes:

Thanks, Thom.

Wow, you've watched all three. This is 4+ hours, and in a foreign language, to boot!

You guys have my utmost respect.

You're the best!

:salut:

Yoda 11-08-2008 11:14 PM

Alignment Golf Hits It Big In Las Vegas!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick O'Hara

Lynn:

I received the DVD set in the mail mid week and wanted to share with you my joy in getting such a wealth of true information concerning the golf swing and how to implement the proper motion through drills. thoughts and concepts. Thank you very much for this work. I truly appreciate it.

I will continue to LOOK, LOOK, LOOK at the website (and my positions) and continue to improve.

Got the above PM from Patrick O'Hara, PGA professional in Las Vegas, Nevada, and LBG Professional Contributor. Thanks, Pat!

:salut:

powerdraw 11-13-2008 07:48 AM

Ok , i've watched no1, such a great dvd series. Being a swinger i have many a trouble manipulating into a vertical hinge. On full shots, my natural shot is a draw on everything or a slight push or push draw. I'm big on HH and letting it go, pretty much cant fade to save me life. So i'm going back to basic motion ala the dvd series to see waz up. Its like the manipulation into a VH or even AH, my mind does not have the same attitude. I become clubhead obsessed or something. As soon as i work on a VH, i skull or thin the shot. When i get to the dvd no2, i presume my incubator may hatch!

thanks for the wonderfull work VJ and Lynn

okie 11-13-2008 09:47 AM

Fighting the Man!
 
A vertical hinge with a swinging motion is fighting city hall. much like a horizontal hinge fort a hitter is civic disobedience. Experiment with stance line/plane line/club face alignment to hit a fade with a HH.

Mike O 11-13-2008 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okie (Post 57626)
A vertical hinge with a swinging motion is fighting city hall. much like a horizontal hinge fort a hitter is civic disobedience. Experiment with stance line/plane line/club face alignment to hit a fade with a HH.

Bucket,
Please check above- fart- fort- I don't know if it's a similie? metaphor? noun? but it's disturbing- get over her we've added OKIE to the list, we're headed to the great plains after we take care of our east coast duties!

12 piece bucket 11-13-2008 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 57635)
Bucket,
Please check above- fart- fort- I don't know if it's a similie? metaphor? noun? but it's disturbing- get over her we've added OKIE to the list, we're headed to the great plains after we take care of our east coast duties!

Round here a fort is a fart that resulted from consumption of pork. I'm just slightly scared of Okie . . . . I think he is a bit "touched." I'll go . . . . but your responsible for the nail gun this time . . . you probably should have that sore on your lip checked out too . . . pretty sure they could fire you over at the petting zoo for that.

DARTH C 11-13-2008 11:57 PM

Great DVD.....They both do an excellent job explaining the concepts....My knowledge the Golf Machine improved 100 %....Looking forward for more videos in the future...Thanks..

Yoda 11-14-2008 11:16 PM

Three's Company
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DARTH C (Post 57663)

Great DVD.....They both do an excellent job explaining the concepts....My knowledge the Golf Machine improved 100 %....Looking forward for more videos in the future...Thanks..

Thank you, Darth C. I appreciate your comments!

But . . . take a closer look inside that DVD jacket . . . there are THREE DVDs, not two.

Enjoy!

:laughing9

DARTH C 11-15-2008 11:29 PM

Yep....I meant to say three...The putting information was awesome,anyone having trouble with the putter should buy the DVD...Thanks again...

KevCarter 11-15-2008 11:45 PM

I would like to add my thanks to Yoda for a wonderful set of DVDs. I can't tell you how much I enjoy them as well as how much clearer this has made Mr. Kelley's great work for me. VJ Trolio did a wonderful job as well!

Regards,
Kevin

powerdraw 11-16-2008 08:44 PM

ok , went through the entire series of dvd's. the putting dvd just made my stroke that much more concrete, ive been putting lights out this year and thanks to the dvd, now i know why. zero out acc3, flat left wrist or bowed, forward leaning shaft meaning pure roll. cool!

Ive mentionned before that i was wondering why with the shaft in left cup, my iron play, heck, entire play is more stable, now i understand that i have the same ryhtm with everthing! so that explains my good play these recent months, doesnt mean zero out, but just the same damn thing.

this is getting cool!

garagefan66 11-17-2008 01:13 PM

New TGMer, LBGer
 
New to this TGM/LBG thing. Received my Alignment Golf DVD and my first copy of TGM about a week and a half ago. I LOVE the DVDs!!! They really bring the book to life. I honestly don't think I could've figured out the book on my own but I'm still reading and trying to absorb as much as I can. Got my dowels and impact bag and I'm drilling away. The right forearm flying wedge drill really brought it together for me. I can't wait to go to the range tomorrow. Thanks Lynn and VJ!! Here's to this 7 handicapper falling off the handicap chart!!

Jamie

PS- The putting DVD is also really sweet! I got my #3 accumulator zeroed out and my right forearm on plane. This is gonna be so much fun!!

Yoda 11-18-2008 02:56 AM

LBG Welcoming Committee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garagefan66 (Post 57758)

New to this TGM/LBG thing. Received my Alignment Golf DVD and my first copy of TGM about a week and a half ago. I LOVE the DVDs!!! They really bring the book to life. I honestly don't think I could've figured out the book on my own but I'm still reading and trying to absorb as much as I can. Got my dowels and impact bag and I'm drilling away. The right forearm flying wedge drill really brought it together for me. I can't wait to go to the range tomorrow. Thanks Lynn and VJ!! Here's to this 7 handicapper falling off the handicap chart!!

Jamie

PS- The putting DVD is also really sweet! I got my #3 accumulator zeroed out and my right forearm on plane. This is gonna be so much fun!!

Great stuff, Jamie. And 'Welcome Aboard' with this first post. I'm bustin' every button!

Please . . . tell me a bit more about your golf and where are you located. I'll guard against any thread-jack.

Thanks!

:salut:

garagefan66 11-18-2008 10:06 AM

Thanks for the welcome yoda! I live in Southern California. I'm 37 and I've been playing since I was 24. I attended the San Diego Golf Academy in 1996 when AJ Bonar was director of golf instruction. Unfortunately I was unable to finish the school due to a family emergency where I had to come home and run the family business. A few years later I attempted the PAT in Palm Springs and failed twice so I gave up on my true love which I deeply regret. I'm just a once-a-week golfer now trying to break through a 7 handicap for about 5 years now. I've had some success in golf. I won my Club Championship in 2002 and then choked in the Tournament of Club Champions later that year. I started hitting thin shots and a couple shanks and blew up my score (those seem to be my misses with the AJ method). Anyway, I'm very excited to be part of this group and I really enjoy your instruction (my wife gets a kick out of you too). Thanks again yoda for this site and for the DVDs.
Jamie

d0ntell 11-18-2008 09:23 PM

After trying to decipher TGM materials from books, websites, forums and video's I had all but given up on trying to figure out this methodology and then this thread comes up.... I've asked for this DVD series for Christmas. :D I guess I'll give it another shot.

Yoda 11-18-2008 10:23 PM

Stocking Stuffer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d0ntell (Post 57810)

After trying to decipher TGM materials from books, websites, forums and video's I had all but given up on trying to figure out this methodology and then this thread comes up.... I've asked for this DVD series for Christmas. :D I guess I'll give it another shot.

Merry Christmas, d0ntell . . . Ho! Ho! Ho!

:golf:

okie 11-19-2008 11:55 AM

Hang in There!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by d0ntell (Post 57810)
After trying to decipher TGM materials from books, websites, forums and video's I had all but given up on trying to figure out this methodology and then this thread comes up.... I've asked for this DVD series for Christmas. :D I guess I'll give it another shot.


Give it another shot...and a little time! Don't forget to check out the gratis and non-gratis goodies on this site...although it does not get better than Alignment Golf. If you have not already check it out take a gander at "Dowels and Wedges" in the Gallery. It is still the best short lesson...EVER!

powerdraw 11-19-2008 07:57 PM

there is alot of talk about extensor action in the vids. i was wondering if extensor action is rather a push via right hand on the left thumb or a pull longitudinal wise towards the ground? Coz i can push on the left thumb or pull the left thumb down towards the ground at setup. me needs thee precision!

okie 11-20-2008 09:47 AM

Linguine Lefty
 
There is a pushing pressure against PP#1...but this in turn pulls the piece of string (left arm) straight! It is a below plane pulling of the left arm (unless #3Acc is zeroed out) If you want that stony compression sound you gotta have it. Without it your flying wedges are like a balsa wood shuttle re-entering the earth's atmosphere! It is a beautiful blend of geometry (flying wedges) and physics (extensor action)


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