Plane board. which one will work better?
 

I am definitely going to make a plane board. But with the limited space i have, I thought of 2 solutions

No.1 Using 2 piece of plastic sheets. Tape them together in center so it can be folded and kept for later used. Reinforced with some aluminium L bars.

No.2 Using plastic pipes. Join them using the L connectors. then the center use some canvas . So can remove and store when i dont need them.

both have the stand .. to change angle..

Which one better idea?

I dying to have one.. I didnt realise its that important to have a board until..........

I would say what would be best is

a. If you are developing a shiftless swing then a Full Plane Board.

b. If you are not developing a shiftless swing then a 1/2 Plane Board would be better suited.


The other option is to use a flash light or lasers with a line on the floor and wall...

hey.. that makes alot of sense.

Thanks

Flashlights are ok but to really get the correct plane feel you need to step inside a plane board set to the turned shoulder plane.

I made a lightweigt portable 1/2 plane out of two sheets of 8'x4' styrofoam insulation (Lowe's). Cut the half moon using a cheap soldering iron. Hold together with duct tape. You could easily cut in half (for smaller storage) and hold together with duct tap. Prop up with a couple of dowels.
To make a full plane duplicate above and duct tape together.

Hmmm...
 

MB, I'd like to see a photo of that contraption, if you would...

the advantage of having surfaces instead of just lasers is that you get to set THE ENTIRE CLUB including the shaft onplane. helluva difference. I've built a couple of these bad boys the half and the full. Personnaly i'd make the full even if there are shifts. Randy used to call them my monsters...lol

Martee,
I have always been somewhat leery of using flashlights. Conceivably, you can make a flashlight shine at a line thru 180 degrees, right? Doesn't seem right to me...

Joe Daniels had a flashlight device (light on each end that you gripped so you aligned it through PP#3 and the sweet spot. It worked rather well I thought.

Seen the same with lasers as well.

The concept of using the flashlights(lasers) as I understand it is to allow for alignment of the sweet spot. Now I have seen people use it for shaft alignment.

The Plane Board Kelley used was the shaft plane. I have had great difficulty in reconciling the use of the plane board in TGM and Chapter 2 along with its references. The answer is another topic in itself, I think.

The one advantage of the Full Plane Board is that you will feel a golf stroke that is probably unknown to most golfers. That in itself may be worth the effort, to gain an appreciation for that feel of the shiftless golf stroke, the location of the hands at the Top and at the End. Also seeing the alignments of the left palm flat to the plane, for swingers earlier than for hitters, the follow through to finish that the club is again on the same plane and the right hand flat to the plane, the flat left wrists, etc. A lot of Look Look Look can be had without doing an manipulation to achieve these alignments.

I think Preachapokechop said that the Plane contraption that Mr. Kelley built was actually like one of the screen things that came out of the wall.

Kinda like what the used to show the drivers-ed movies on via that projector.

Plane Boards
 

I think the best plane boards are those items that are already flat- that way you don't need to build them. Bucket's front door would be an excellent plane for you. I believe that his family room windows would be a good plane to use. Since there is a limited supply - the bedroom windows and doors would also work. Kitchen table. If you can get the siding off in one large piece that would be excellent. Garage door. Oh ya- the address is 1234 Grease Pit Way, North Carolina. He'll be out of town this weekend so I'd get it quick because these items will go quickly- Yes everything is free. If the neighbor asks you any questions just have them call me - I'll handle it.

hoho.. 12 bucket is such a nice guy. giving away things for free! Thanks Mike for the head up.

Well, I am thinking there is no need to make such a complicated stuffs.. since i am developing a 2 shift . Maybe a good idea to use a bench type of straight bar instead? could they be the same?

IMO there is a lot of danger in using a bench type of straight bar.

1. The club is contact at only one point, allowing for tilting, head down, hands down, etc....
2. Without a plane surface it is difficult to monitor the alignment of the hands (which IMO is the Biggie after the straight plane line)

A Solid surface can open a whole new perspective on your golf stroke.

Note, I am not a proponent of monitoring the clubhead, I think if 3-F-5 alignments are set,then it should just be the hands to plane that should be used as check points, not the clubface, but that is just me...

Martee, i can really relate to your post, when i swung on the full monster, i could not believe nor understand even by looking at my hands how far BACK my hands felt compared to my usual multi-shifts. UNREAL. Also, when i looked at my hands at top it seemed the only way to lay the shaft flat was a cupped left wrist wich put sand in the gears of my noodle. One theory of mine is flexibilty issue another is monster was set up too on a 'flat' zero shift plane and the other i just 'plane' suck.:naughty: :super:

yeh i like homers plane just pull it off the wall and attach the bottom to a point that will give you the plane angle you want just gotta cut a hole in it

Plane board pic from my basement lab.

You got me Mikey . . . Hey man . . . How's the rash by the way? Did that cream clear it up?

thanks guys .. this is extremely useful.

Plane Board- Build your own
 

Nuke,
Plane boards are great I guess- but here is how eventually what you will need to construct your plane "board".

1) Step one- establish your plane line in order to set up and build your Golfing Machine. Sure the ball is one point on that plane line but you better have one if not two other points of reference on that line.
2) Step two- Set up at impact fix-with both flying wedges "intact".
3) Step Three - See the plane "board"? See the plane line- that's the edge of the board. See the clubhshaft, the hands, the right forearm, the right elbow- Ya- those are all lying on the plane "board" - that's the angle you'll need to take the hands and clubshaft back on. Let's fill in the plane "board" - so let's connect the dots- ball, hands, right elbow- Hey! I can see the right forearm flying wedge!- and the direction that it needs to back up on- before it takes off on the downswing- to accomplish it's mission.

Thanks Mike. Thats exactly what I will do. I did not realise its so important to have a plane board.

Super post Rash-Boy . . . How would you relate what you see to the 2-J-3 Visual/Plane Line equivalents??? I love this part of the Machine . . . .

Tell us more . . . How about ball position and plane angle?

You don't need no plane board when you got an on-plane right forearm at your selected fix.

Go on witcha-badself.

Ball Position
 

Ball Position- obviously you have options but for me and probably you Bucket- Left Nipple!

White Flag . . . I'm Done.

Hey Mikey when did you move out of my car? Are you living in "THE" Can? Canader? The airport restrooms again? . . . remember we don't expose ourselves to strangers anymore . . . right buddy?

Ball location
 

Left your trunk a couple of weeks ago- after seeing the Video "Can" - there was a link on this site to it.

What's "white flag... I'm Done" mean. Ball location is in relation to the left shoulder i.e. opposite low point. I play most of my full shots 3-5 inches back of low point- and measured in relation to my left shoulder - that's roughly the left nipple. Holla back- I want to make sure you didn't think I was just playing with ya!

While you can use the 2-J-3 visual equivalent - arc of approach- for swinging- the forearm or the shaft of the club pointing at the plane line is a more accurate check of being on plane and is what I would use as a reference check. So in that regard = I'm not really using 2-J-3 - at least this week.

Exposed to stranger..

You mean flasher?

Not everybody have the same location. but from what you say 3-4 inch away from shoulder joint, His nipple is pretty closed together.. or he have extremely broad shoulder

No I actually have 3 nipples.

Mike,

Do I need to train the planeboard often?

I had just built a wooden half board. No space to put up a Full board.

options
 

Lot's of options- but for iron shots off the ground you'll need to have the ball at or back of low point i.e. the left shoulder.

Gah, i really regreted the WOODEN type of plane board. Should have used See through, glass or Plexiglass.

Very hard to visually confirm what i am doing -.-