Top 25 Posters - Bucket takes the lead
 

Yoda 5,235
12 piece bucket 1,881
Bagger Lance 1,526
bambam 1,284
EdZ 1,169

Here's the short list of the top 5.
Yoda out-classes us by a mile, so I'm not even going to count him in the field.

For years I've had the #2 spot and now I'm so far behind my deep fried friend, there's no chance for recovery.:redface:
(Admins shouldn't count in the polls anyway)

Congrats Bucket! Keep up the good work.:thumleft:
No slacking or I'm taking the spot back!

I'm heading back to my wiring closet to sulk for a while.:read:

(P.S. MikeO is #17 on the list. When he finds out he'll probably break my glasses again.)

I'll publish the top 25 later.

Top 25
 

There is a grouping of at least a dozen people within a few posts of being inside the top 25 range.

Yoda 5,235
12 piece bucket 1,881
Bagger Lance 1,527
bambam 1,284
EdZ 1,169
birdie_man 1,090
6bmike 1,082
Trig 814
tongzilla 811
annikan skywalker 783
YodasLuke 730
lagster 729
Mathew 728
jim_0068 675
Martee 534
comdpa 515
Mike O 467
Delaware Golf 460
metallion 410
neil 371
drewitgolf 371
Matt 351
Daryl 336
MizunoJoe 301
mrodock 297

Hey, my count just went up a notch!
There is hope!

Rank Privileges
 

We're considering opening up some special forum privileges to our top posters. All of this is designed to get more forum participation going and reward those who keep things hop'in.

The first that comes to mind is if you're in the top 20, you can berate and insult the Admins (at least me) with impunity and since that one is already being exercised it's a given, but for some it may be incentive.

There are other things we could turn on, like the ability to upload photos, doc attachments and videos to the site.

We are also in the process of creating a paid subscription portion of the forum which will have access to richer content than is generally available. More on this later.

There are other ideas floating around, but if you have any suggestions on how we can get more activity and questions generated, let us know.

Hmmm.. Bucket? Do we have to count all the crazy ones? :laughing9

Great idea Bagger, this place is a lot of fun! - EZ

Quality over quantity
 

For my money quality counts over quantity.

Although I have fired a few meaningless posts out toward the Bucket my own self!

Posters
 

On the one hand- I'd say the closer you are to the top of this list the more mental instability you have- therefore I'm not proud to be in the top 25 of this list. I'd also like to agree with Edz- (Of course, If I've mis-quoted him then I'd like Edz to agree with me!) that Bucket really has 5 understandable relavent posts ( I know I am stretching here but the poor guy - I had to at least give him 5)- therefore I would suggest that BamBam (Bagger has mental Baggage- where'd you think the name came from anyway!) review all of the posts for each forum member- subtracting out any and all posts that could be considered ramblings of a mad-man. Then re-post the entire forum list. The only way Bucket will not end up at the bottom of that list - is if you put him ahead of all non-posters- However, I would suggest that you review the five posts in question- I think when you weigh the facts- you'll be able - beyond a reasonable doubt- to rank all non-posters ahead of the one lard bucket in question. I would not normally be throwing stones- only when they are thrown first (for historically reference please refer to the Tomasello series, no make that Tom Tomasello 1991 interview (smile DG)- NO- on review I realize that you need to refer to the Drew Chapman thread post #8. And why are we constantly referring back to the Drew Chapman thread- because we want to acknowledge the time, work and effort that Drew put into getting his certificate- but more importantly saluting another individual that understands the contribution and value that Homer Kelley created! Nice Job Drew!!!:)

Front and Center
 

I've moved this thread to the Clubhouse Lounge.
We need to have Drew and Crew front and center in the Hole-ies section.

These guys are good!

As for all that other MikeO stuff...That boy can ramble with the best of us Suthernurs.
Not bad SOCAL.

The site could generate more traffic by becoming more "everyday" golfer friendly in the instruction forum.

Strickly speaking I have never felt that there needs to be two TGM specific forums, because for one thing, the content in one is really not that more advanced than the other anyways and for most its all "advanced". If it really is an advanced subject then there is only a handful of people would understand it anyways.

What I believe would be generate more traffic is merging the two instruction forums on the golfing machine and creating a general golfing discussion forum which anyone can post about anything instruction. The current caterisation I feel makes many posters feel they are unable to post - maybe because they feel intimidated with the language and the fact that they probably cannot understand the replies. Alot of people just have to see "primary lever assembly" and think its all too complex for them... we need to tap into these people at their level without being condescending or intimidating....

I also think that the sticky button has been abused.... there is alot to be unstuck IMO. Apart from the fact you have to scroll down half the page each time. It is not like the forum member does not know where the gallery is and this would prompt more discussing when they wish to talk about a video, they would create a new thread rather than just add another post at the end of a 8 page discussion which has already gone stagnant long ago.

Thats two things for starters I feel could be improved in IMO....

Starwars Part Two
 

Very cool.

Thanks Mathew!

I've been trying to clear some stickies but agree it needs more work.

Making areas of the forum more "new student" friendly is a great tip and much needed as Lynn becomes more visible in the public eye.
Any volunteers for moderating that one? :laughing9 We'll need a bunch of folks.

By "merging" forums, do you mean the TGM basic and advanced? or LBG and somebody elses forum? Hoping you mean the former.

Great stuff.

Yes I mean the TGM basic and advanced....lol. I hope you didn't think I mean't to join forces with the louisville lot (cue deliverence banjo music)....lol

Basically I think this forum misses out on the "middle ground" of the average golfer who plays golf, wants to come to a forum and talk instruction like something straight out of golf digest. Most of them are not going to put in the time to understand the golfing machine or learn its language....

Im not opposed to being a moderator (but I would have to talk this over with you).

Does this one get me ahead of Drew?:rolleyes:

Short-lived success
 

For the moment:salut: !

Must start posting, must start posting :D
Ok, I'd admit that I don't post much but I am on the site almost everyday reading and incubating the information on my noggin. Someday I will get 'it' :D
Alex

:BangHead: must cut back! :hang:

Post Syndrome Relief
 

No cutting back allowed 6B, too late.

The impact bag is on the way.:)

Am I missing something or has Bucket really NOT posted in this thread?
You didn't catch him did you Mike?:rambo:

Bagger
We have enough chaff among the wheat. Uppndownn is correct -
Quality not quantity.

Yes - I'm hearing that loud and clear.
There are a lot of "fluff" posts.

We don't want lots of posts just for the sake of posting.
(But as a sportsman I do enjoy a good jousting match now and then, as long as it's all in fun :) ).

If we put up incentives that kind of thing can happen, but once in a while an active poster comes up with something pretty good.

Only a small percentage of our 4,000+ members are active here. In fact, it's around 1 to 2%.
That's the problem. How do we draw out more activity and questions? 10% would be great! 25% would be awesome.

No matter what your level of TGM understanding, there are still questions to be asked and answers to be shared.

Over the last 7 years, Homers work has given a lot of joy to me both on and off the course. One of the reasons I volunteered to start this forum with Lynn was to freely give back what was freely given to me. That may sound idealistic, but what would have happened if I just thought nah...too much trouble, there's enough out there already and I don't know nuth'in about websites anyway.

The three of us who voluntarily develop and run this site do it to help Lynn get the message out. It's also a place where "Iron sharpens Iron" and we can learn from each other. I'm hoping that our learned "inactive" members feel a need to help others who are struggling to sort out the "mysteries" of golf like they once were.

We have some great talent here; Professional Golfers, Amateur Golfers, Club Designers and Fitters, World Class Teachers, Photographers, Animators, Web designers, Entertainers, Fitness Gurus, etc. who keep this place going.

What kinds of things does this website need in order to address the needs of those who are lurking?
I learned a long time ago to develop products based on what customers tell me they want.

Sunday sermon concluded - Go out and spread the word.

Suggestion box is open.

And then you've got me.:laughing1

Is that awesome, or what.:rolleyes:

Duty Stations
 

I had you in the entertainment category Burner! :laughing9

If I've got you...get ready!
When Lynn starts getting the general publics attention, I'm calling you in for duty.
We need lots of translators (Babblefish). People that can communicate Alignment Golf into everyday language.
It's coming up fast. :)

Bucket don't get out much . . . but when he does . . .
 

It gets U-G-L-Y!!!!

After reading the title to this thread I now truly understand . . .

I NEED TO PURCHASE A LIFE!!!!!!

While you dorkballios were doing your thing . . . I was doing my own thang at a wedding for this fat chick that my wife trotted me out to. I was drinkin' barley sodaz, eatin' chickin' and makin' it happen on the dance floor with the Sprinkler, the Lawn Mower, the modified Lawn Mower Chicken, the Q-tip, the Diggin' Taterz, the Weedeater, the Chainsaw, the Mongoloid, Kung-Fu Fightin', the Wheelchair, the Eat Fly Dookie and Pass It, the Po-Go Stick and many more. All you gotta do is play Brick House and I just act a fool. Fat girls know how to eat and party gooooooood!!!!

I even went white water raftin' in the back woods of Tennissippi or some such state . . . . it was a state of genetic experiment gone bad really bad . . . I was just waiting for the banjo music to start up and the squeelin' to begin . . . I do bear slight resemblance to Ned Betty. SUUUUUUUWEEEEEEEE!!!

So now I guess I'm back to my day job of being the biggest nonprofessional internet goober in the whole galaxy . . . sad . . .

But when things get soooo bad that you can't even turn on Springer and feel better about who you are . . . . I just think . . .

"Man I could be like that Mike Oberdorkerwhathisname . . . "

Then it's ALL BETTER.

What Have I Done?
 

And there you have it folks, our new LBG "Post"er boy.

Somebody please challenge him for the spot.:laughing9

I would suggest NOT allowing Mike O to have the privileges with regards to uploading . . . from a liability perspective that could get very expensive. Barney.com allowed Mike those very privileges . . . didn't go so well for them.

Just my 2 cents.

1- The site needs a beginner section with several "improved' LBG "forum instructors" to field questions and feed instruction anyone new to TGM. Totally STUPID questions should be encouraged. That is the only way people learn. Keep it light. Stress Imperatives and some basic geometry and physics. Let them move to deeper into TGM when they are ready. Some of our posts are spooky to someone just lurking for the first time. We are not here to promote TGM- just Homer, Lynn Blake and his Professional contributors. The home office is not one of them.

2- Rid the site of science debaters. Homer's science required Line of Compression and putting a ball in flight. Posters that only delight in science debates (mostly to diss HK) and never about playing golf should find another forum.

3- Having 4,000 members is great but IMHO most signed-on to download from the Gallery. The TTs, Hogans, Snead, Doyle, and of course, the Yoda clips- all free- is a great thing to have, but those with less than evident appreciation and support for TGM/LBG are just ripping the site off. I'd like to see a new set of Lynn Blake clips go to YouTube as a way to promote what this forum is all about.

4- I haven't posted on other forums, like fgi, or gea in a real long time but recent lurkering shows TGM loathing and contempt is alive and well. I'm the last person to say be civil - as YodaSolo - I got the boot and I do flip out against the intolerant too often but now Stack and Tilt, Hardy and whatever is also being harassed and assailed. Speaks volumes about those sites, I think. Point is, if you do post on them, lets gain respect instead of the way we did it in the past.

Be safe out there.

Sir, reporting for duty, Sir!:salut:

Safety First
 

Your post is more than 2 cents Mike - Feedback is golden.

Hearing we need to set up a "safe" beginners section is important.

The videos are free and they are dynamite. Several have been put up on Youtube already. No doubt that video has been a big draw and right now we don't mind folks ripping them off. It should be easy for viewers to see where the content originated. As we light the next stage, there will be more exclusive content and more "basic" content.

Science talk is good - It's the behavior of a few of the self proclaimed experts that isn't. We can manage that.

As for other forums - What other forums??? :)
I expect we will get diluged with fans of pop instruction. We will need moderators in the beginners section that can not only deal with those perspectives, but can also translate Precision Golf effectively.

Are you up for a growth experience??? :happy3:

Lynn needs to set up a group of authorized LBG online instructors so the right information is presented and accepted. Lynn won't be able to answer posts like the old days- I'm glad I have printed them out from those three old forums- what a book! But without a "golfingrandy" type- a few who can address questions that people trust.

This may be the most important section on the forum. Advanced questions from seasoned students and instructors will put new people off.

I said that anyone who only engages in refuting HK geometry and physics with quantum analysis and devoid of any actual expectations of discussing real time stroke concepts is only hurting the forum when it comes to attracting new members. If they do talk about the golf swing and why Mr. Kelley does this or that- no problem.

This place is scary to most golfers - and we need to be better ambassadors of Homer Kelley and LBG on those other forums.

What good is someone joining for one day and downloading the Hogan, Snead, Lynn Blake or TT videos and never returning? Perhaps a 25 post rule before DLing them -with streaming at anytime. That builds better site traffic.

another nickle. 6b

Here's #784.....Bucket needs to drink Diet Cheerwine and quit eating the entire box of "Ho-Ho's"...not to mention getting his lazy azz off the sofa once in a while to play some G.O.L.F....Have you chopped off that mullet yet?

Hell naw!!! The mullet will come back eventually and then I'll be all the rage again. Until then . . .

More help for beginners
 

Bagger i agree with 6bmike i think more could be done to help beginners. I was thinking along the lines of a beginners guide aimed at people who have come across the forum for the first time and do not have the book. Perhaps in the form of introductionary articles or FAQ's detailing some of the key concepts and language used.

I know when i first came across this forum i was very close to never coming back. Having played and read about golf for many years i was a bit perturbed that i couldn't understand anything people were writing. Only because i was a student and had time to burn did i stick around and investigate further.

How about trying to get " regional"groups together - by state ,county -whatever
and post meeting minutes-Say we meet every two months-and share questions/answers /confusion/understanding?:study: