halfway back club face
 

First post on this wonderful forum.

I'm having a problem During the takeaway at half way, Should the toe of the club be pointing straight up to the sky with the leading edge of the club straight as possible ?


can I get away with slightly closed face, I mean instead of straight up slightly inclined with the angle of my spine ?

Looked at the tomesello videos but can't see the club halfway.

Any help appreciated.
thanks
Patty

The experts will soon chime in, but as I look at the TT videos (especially hitting vs. swinging) the toe up position is a swinging procedure, the closed face is hitting.

Scott is correct ,but what are you calling halfway?
Parallel to the ground is the normal reference point for the clubface to be pointing straight up-unless you are using different plane/stance lines as a reference.

Scott is correct ,but what are you calling halfway?
Parallel to the ground is the normal reference point for the clubface to be pointing straight up-unless you are using different plane/stance lines as a reference.

Hi,

thanks for the reply.. Yes by halfway I mean Parrallel to the ground with shaft running across my toe line.

So (if I'm a hitter) I can get away with a closed Club face ?

Patty,

You might find it helpful to go straight from your impact fix position to your "half way back" position without disturbing your impact alignments (no messing about rolling your forearms and such) just so you can see where your hands and club face end up.

My guess would be that your club face will be slightly closed. That is to say the toe of the club will be nearer the target line than the heel - i.e angled towards it like \ so but not as much; say half way between that and perpendicular. You should also then be able to see two knuckles on your right hand but only one on your left and that is just fine and dandy - or should that be Dante.

Don't assume that you are a hitter on the basis of a single component!

The "single wrist action" where the clubface is effectively held in a more closed position and there is no turning of the clubface to the inclined plane by the forearms... is advised for the hitter... but does not define a hitter... you could be a swinger who is using single wrist action!

The manner in whihc you stress the shaft ( lag loading) and the role ( active or passive) of the right triceps/elbow are the teatures which define a hitter. All of the other components which are suited to hitting are secondary to these features because they make it work better that way... but they are not definitive. So angled hinge, single wrist action, punch elbow position etc are all secondary hitting features.

How do you load the lag and how much do you use the right triceps?

But if you're using horizontal hingeing-with single wrist action the clubface would not be closed.

How the clubface is oriented when the club is parallel to the ground on the backstroke isn't really much of a checkpoint of anything. In the grand scheme of things its about as useful as checking to see if your shoe laces are tied.

Bucket
 

Bucket,
I told you so- the fact that you walk around without your shoelaces tied on your golf shoes has nothing to do with your high scores! You don't look very good with that style - but by looking at the rest of the outfit- I figured that wasn't an important criteria for you anyway!:happy3:

You ain't got anything better than that? It's almost like you're a man that has lost his dog and ran out of peanut butter.

Precision in every Alignment
 

The position of the clubface at halfway back is important because the student is aware of it.....also this is a great spot to check you wedges!!

Patty,

The key to halfway back is having the flying wedges in tact.....go to impact fix then lift the club up in front of you from impact fix so that it is parralel to the ground at this point the club would be pointing at some one facing you (eye to eye)now turn you shoulders to get the club to be facing someone that would be standing behind you(facing your right pocket). This will show you what your hands and the clubface should you look like halfway back. Also you left arm should be straight due to extensor action. Most player's are going to have the clubhead inline with their hands at this point. Hope that helps.

Sorting Through the Instructor's Textbook.

B-Ray

Well said! Remember the halfway back/clubface position works only if you are On Plane because a tilted rotated FW assembly off plane will appear incorrect.