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BBax 06-06-2008 08:52 AM

If you had only 2 minutes.........
 
Next tuesday I have been asked to present a two minute PGA Professional "golf tip" for our local cable television network. The possibilities of topics are endless but I would be curious as to what others would come up with?

GPStyles 06-06-2008 09:31 AM

basic motion for chipping - will improve most weekend warriors games overnight.

6bmike 06-06-2008 09:34 AM

A two minute tip and a sexy one at that. Tough task without a follow up.

I’d try:

Teach 5-0. SWING the HANDS, MONITOR the HANDS, not the clubhead. Show how the hands turn and roll. Don’t go beyond this too much- forget flat and bent or hand control pivot in your “two minutes” Show the Turn to the right and roll to the left into follow through. Most people need a good doze of hand brains.


Better yet- steal from this:

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...1/Barclay1.wmv


Lynn taught 5-0 in his free clinics all weekend and improved everyone’s game. Maybe as your two minute tip might be to show the location of the hands at impact as Lynn did- opposite the left shoulder- “way out there? Yes! No where near the ball.” Here you CAN show the bent right and flat left because it is structure at impact with a still bent right arm into impact. No one will know you just taught them Flying Wedges without the jargon. check out the teaser clip- Blake, Hull, Ferguson are loaded with simple tgm adivce you can use.

Good luck

12 piece bucket 06-06-2008 10:02 AM

Low point geometry and it's releation to where the left shoulder is in space.

drewitgolf 06-06-2008 10:16 AM

Rob from the rich, gives to the poor !
 
Rob is an exceptional PGA member and an A.I. He really knows his Machine.

IMHO:
Three Functions of the Club and their controlling Three Imperative. Go to Impact Fix to show where almost ever great player goes (from your shortest chip to your longest drive), then Down and Out to Low Point. Try to be humble, make eye contact and make sure you iron your shirt (no wrinkles or creases).

KAPLOWD 06-06-2008 10:16 AM

Impact bag. See Yoda's video.

okie 06-06-2008 11:14 AM

3...3...3
 
Controlling the 3 club components with the three imperatives throught the three stations. When people are no longer club head and ball bound they WILL improve.

mb6606 06-06-2008 11:39 AM

Demonstrate Flat versus bent left wrist at impact + lag.

BBax 06-06-2008 11:45 AM

Keep 'em coming and thanks
 
I really appreciate all the help, keep 'em coming. I take it I should avoid the JC Anderson approach though.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery.../4-M_JCpga.mov

:confused1

Delaware Golf 06-06-2008 12:07 PM

The Three Imperatives
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBax (Post 53309)
I really appreciate all the help, keep 'em coming. I take it I should avoid the JC Anderson approach though.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery.../4-M_JCpga.mov

:confused1

I would go over the Three Imperatives.....at the end of the piece. I would tell the viewing audience they can learn more about this in a book called "The Golfing Machine" by Homer Kelley and the Lynn Blake Golf website (I'm sorry I have a degree in Marketing, what an opportunity).

Ya got to have a flat left wrist (clubhead lag)......you need an area in your hands to monitor the flat left wrist (number 3 pressure point, a clubhead lag pressure point) and you need a reference line to direct the number 3 point (a straight Plane Line) to execute and keep your swing on plane.

Or show them....Tomasello's Ten step swing sequence....per the 3 imperatives.

DG

6bmike 06-06-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBax (Post 53309)
I really appreciate all the help, keep 'em coming. I take it I should avoid the JC Anderson approach though.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery.../4-M_JCpga.mov

:confused1

You can teach anything for two minutes but look at this as your business card. It has to be short, sweet, hot- something that anyone can take away and put it in their swing right away. Don’t teach out of the book, teach as an instructor using the book. Lynn at Barclay, and I promise to get more of that out, didn’t teach out of the book using TGM terminology. Lynn avoided jargon instead taught simple hand motion that allowed the student to discover TGM themselves. Your presentation should avoided concepts that two minutes will just alienate or frustrate anyone from seeing you or any AI in the fiuture. Be proud of TGM but don’t hit them over the head with something that 10 minutes on a driving range would do better.

Mathew 06-06-2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBax (Post 53284)
Next tuesday I have been asked to present a two minute PGA Professional "golf tip" for our local cable television network. The possibilities of topics are endless but I would be curious as to what others would come up with?

Beginners need something simple -

I would memorise quotes from every great golfer stating the head should remain stationary or at the very least steady or at least give a list of names that have said it in their books. This way the are more likely to accept it after having years of the golf channel brainwashing them.

okie 06-06-2008 01:38 PM

Highlight lowpoint
 
I think a good go to "tip" is what Bobby Clampett focused on over...and over...and over...and over again in The Impact Zone, namely moving the low point forward of the ball. in that case I second what Bucket said about low point geometry. It was the first defogging concept that TGM taught me.

6bmike 06-06-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okie (Post 53317)
I think a good go to "tip" is what Bobby Clampett focused on over...and over...and over...and over again in The Impact Zone, namely moving the low point forward of the ball. in that case I second what Bucket said about low point geometry. It was the first defogging concept that TGM taught me.

Check how Lynn taught that hand position to reach low point on that clip.

okie 06-06-2008 01:54 PM

????
 
Where can I find that?

Mike O 06-06-2008 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBax (Post 53284)
Next tuesday I have been asked to present a two minute PGA Professional "golf tip" for our local cable television network. The possibilities of topics are endless but I would be curious as to what others would come up with?

I'd realize that for the most part a "2 minute tip" isn't going to help anyone- help themselves. Therefore, the purpose of your 2 minutes on TV isn't to help someone get better - so what is it? As DG touched on- I would guess it would be to get them to you for a full lesson - where you really might be able to help them and create a long lasting student. How are you going to do that in two minutes while presenting a tip? and who are you going to target? The beginner or the experienced golfer or both? What tip (small piece of information) you use isn't so important- but I think it needs to be presented clearly and provocatively. A simple fact that can be demonstrated clearly and then used in a way to show something completely opposite of what the golfer thought they should do or what they thought should be happening in the golf movement. I think it would help if you had a simple machine or some non golf movement example of the principle that you are describing so that they can "relate" to it in a non-golf way. Finally, hopefully you can finish off with your ad- such as "If you would like more information like this to help your game- call me at XXXX country club, etc.

Delaware Golf 06-06-2008 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 53328)
I'd realize that for the most part a "2 minute tip" isn't going to help anyone- help themselves. Therefore, the purpose of your 2 minutes on TV isn't to help someone get better - so what is it? As DG touched on- I would guess it would be to get them to you for a full lesson - where you really might be able to help them and create a long lasting student. How are you going to do that in two minutes while presenting a tip? and who are you going to target? The beginner or the experienced golfer or both? What tip (small piece of information) you use isn't so important- but I think it needs to be presented clearly and provocatively. A simple fact that can be demonstrated clearly and then used in a way to show something completely opposite of what the golfer thought they should do or what they thought should be happening in the golf movement. I think it would help if you had a simple machine or some non golf movement example of the principle that you are describing so that they can "relate" to it in a non-golf way. Finally, hopefully you can finish off with your ad- such as "If you would like more information like this to help your game- call me at XXXX country club, etc.

Mike....I agree. You need to do something in a 2 minute spot that attracts them to find out more. Like using buzz words....like "The Secret of Golf"...achieving this condition in your hands at impact....

Nothing like clever Marketing...with the golfing machine being such a complex text, I believe you really need to start with the advanced player who you hope will show the average player. Any way you approach it, it's going to take a long time and plenty of marketing savvy.

If I were doing the 2 minute spot, I would do a minute on the 3 imperatives....one minute on general info about building a stroke pattern (personalized pattern) and tell them where they can find more information about TGM.

DG

6bmike 06-06-2008 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okie (Post 53321)
Where can I find that?

I left the link in my first post in this thread. it starts with Steve Ferguson then Lynn, ends with Ted Fort. wow!

okie 06-06-2008 06:16 PM

Oops
 
gotcha..thanks!

BBax 06-07-2008 04:40 AM

How about this for a topic
 
Thanks for all your suggestions. Here's what I am thinking as of now....although this can change by the time I finish typing this.........I will have a fellow golf professional as my student. I'll have them make a few swings and go through what we as instructors are looking for, basically the "essentials and the imperatives". I will explain to them that this is why even tour players can have different looking swings yet still play world class golf. I'm open to your thoughts and thanks again for your help.
:salut:

okie 06-07-2008 09:18 AM

Ea
 
If I could through something in the ring. If I were watching a 2 minute spot what would arrest me the most would probably be an explanation of extensor action, or the inert left arm...extenstion without tension etc. Outside of the flying wedges...and hinge action NOTHING was more revolutionary to my way of thinking. Without it, nothing survives! It ties in nicely with maintaining the left shoulder to ball relationship. All of the good players feel it, but who could identify it? Homer did, of course. It drives me crazy that domething so vital is practically invisible to the observer. I have been looking for extensor action in all of the good players, apart from the fact that have great extension I cannot see a below plane pulling force! Accelerating the left arm with the left arm introduces tension and catastrophe. I think the rope drill has removed the scales from a lot of golfer's eyes. Without extesnor action the three imperatives have no glue!

6bmike 06-07-2008 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okie (Post 53366)
If I could through something in the ring. If I were watching a 2 minute spot what would arrest me the most would probably be an explanation of extensor action, or the inert left arm...extenstion without tension etc. Outside of the flying wedges...and hinge action NOTHING was more revolutionary to my way of thinking. Without it, nothing survives! It ties in nicely with maintaining the left shoulder to ball relationship. All of the good players feel it, but who could identify it? Homer did, of course. It drives me crazy that domething so vital is practically invisible to the observer. I have been looking for extensor action in all of the good players, apart from the fact that have great extension I cannot see a below plane pulling force! Accelerating the left arm with the left arm introduces tension and catastrophe. I think the rope drill has removed the scales from a lot of golfer's eyes. Without extesnor action the three imperatives have no glue!

Extensor action is key- its flying wedge glue but in two minutes few would know how to do it correctly and screw up their swing because HK wanted a "stiff left arm." Be careful in dishing out small parts of the "elephant." Beside- what do they have to glue????

GPStyles 06-09-2008 08:28 AM

Never underestimate the value of 'secret' information
 
'Secret' information is the most valuable commodity in the marketing world. Close your presentation by suggesting that you can only give general information out in the presentation but you will share the secrets of hitting straight, powerful shots, time after time with people who want to contact you at your course.

Keep the presentation very simple and know your audience. If you want better golfers to come to you for lessons, speak to them. If you want beginners and hackers, talk to them in terms they'll understand.

Get the makeup on and ensure you look the part.

Enjoy it!

Sligo33 06-09-2008 11:39 AM

BBax,

Wish you well on your presentation. Know you will do well. Look forward to seeing you and Drew down the TGM fairway.

Have a great summer

okie 06-09-2008 03:26 PM

Getting to grips?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 53384)
Extensor action is key- its flying wedge glue but in two minutes few would know how to do it correctly and screw up their swing because HK wanted a "stiff left arm." Be careful in dishing out small parts of the "elephant." Beside- what do they have to glue????

I think you are right. I have changed my mind! How about the grip...pressure points...and their relationship with the sweetspot? Everybody starts with the grip, right? Few however know what makes a good grip...good!

strav 06-10-2008 06:05 AM

Props
 
In Chapter 4 of the Tomasello videos Tom demonstrates the straight left arm in three minutes. He makes very good use of two props, the short club and the rope. Could you pare it to two minutes?

Yoda 06-10-2008 08:35 AM

How the Arms Work -- Two Minute Demo With Drama
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O (Post 53328)
What tip (small piece of information) you use isn't so important- but I think it needs to be presented clearly and provocatively. A simple fact that can be demonstrated clearly and then used in a way to show something completely opposite of what the golfer thought they should do or what they thought should be happening in the golf movement. I think it would help if you had a simple machine or . . . example of the principle . . .

Agreed.

Okay, BBax, how about this:

The camera finds you wearing a rain jacket, windshirt or long sleeve shirt, but with your left arm out of its sleeve. With the sleeve dangling, you open with:

"Hi, I'm PGA golf professional BBax, and I'm here today to demonstrate how the two arms work in the golf swing. Oops, looks like I've forgotten to put my left arm in its sleeve. [Pick up the sleeve -- no stretch yet -- with the right hand and show it to the audience.] No matter . . . the left arm doesn't do all that much anyway. It functions like a piece of string. But we all know that the left arm -- the string -- needs to be straight, so it needs to be 'stretched out'. How do we do this? With the right arm! Like this." [Demonstrate a good stretch of the sleeve.]

"Now, how do we get this 'arm' to the top of the swing. Not by turning the shoulders! [Demonstrate.] And certainly not with the 'sleeve' itself! [Demo with chuckle: 'See, it won't move!'] Again, we use the right arm! " [Demonstrate how the bending right arm takes the sleeve to the top.]

"Notice that the right arm keeps stretching the sleeve. This same action in your golf swing will give it width and structure. But a lot of you stop stretching and so you look like this. [Demonstrate a backstroke with an unstretched sleeve.] So, your swing has no structure. It is flimsy. Keep that sleeve -- your left arm -- stretched!"

"Now, notice that the right arm can't be straight, it has to bend. That's because this sleeve is acting like a leash. See? [Demonstrate backstroke again]. Now it wants to be straight -- [Demo: let go of the sleeve halfway back and let the right arm rapidly extend and straighten out.] -- but it can't!"

"In fact, the right elbow gets more and more bent as it approaches the right shoulder [Demo backswing] and can't begin to straighten until it moves away from it [Demo release]. It can't be fully straight until well past the ball [Demo follow-through]."

"This is the way your arms work in the swing. The right arm lifts and lowers the left and keeps it stretched out. Now, go put on a jacket or a long sleeve shirt, but leave that left arm out of the sleeve. Get the feel. [Demo as you talk.] Without a jacket . . . [Quickly remove yours and toss it to the ground.] . . . simply grasp your left wrist with your right thumb and forefinger [Demo as you talk] and stretch that left arm! Now take it to the top, like this. [Demo as you talk.] Keep the stretch! [Demo] Into the downstroke, impact and followthrough. Keep the stretch! [Demo].

"Do this little drill for a few minutes a day, and you'll soon find yourself playing better golf. I'm PGA professional BBax, and I'll see you on the tee!"

:)

okie 06-10-2008 10:22 AM

Jeepers
 
"You...you're good you!" - Bob Deniro to Billy Crystal.

Another cut and paster. Page 200 and...something and counting!

BBax 06-16-2008 06:23 PM

Thank you all
 
I want to thank all LBG' ers for all your help and ideas. The segment went great and I hope to have many more opportunities. My focus was on the Flat Left Wrist and the amount of forward lean in the shaft necessary for a proper 3 dimensional impact. I even threw in my version of the "golfers flail" to demonstrate the uncock and roll of the left wrist and hand. Thanks again to all my friends for all your help.:salut:

GPStyles 06-16-2008 07:06 PM

you going to put it up on youtube for us to have a ganders?

Yoda 06-16-2008 07:14 PM

Pro's Pro and Impact Emphasis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBax (Post 53671)

The segment went great and I hope to have many more opportunities. My focus was on the Flat Left Wrist and the amount of forward lean in the shaft necessary for a proper 3 dimensional impact. I even threw in my version of the "golfers flail" to demonstrate the uncock and roll of the left wrist and hand.

Good choice, BBax. Congratulations on a job well done!

:salut:


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