What Tiger is missing and the simple "fix"
 

I suppose it is a good thing for the rest of the field, but Tiger really needs to understand that his current swing will never get him back to his form of 2000.

The bottom line: he needs to understand the flying wedges, especially the right forearm flying wedge.

Right now he is setting up with his right side WAY too high. His right forearm is as high as most hackers. The only way he can 'save' shots with that setup is to have a right shoulder that moves too high - off plane - through impact, or by using his hands to flip/time impact.

His new swing only works well when he is a 'true' swinger, when CF aligns the face for him, but Tiger has always driven that right side, and if/when he does that now - bye bye fairway -

If Tiger can take 5 minutes to learn the flying wedge alignments and a proper impact "fix" - I suspect we would see several more seasons like 2000.

Until them - at least the rest of the field has a chance :)

Very interesting observations. It would be fun to see what could happen if Yoda got ahold of him. It's all in the book!

Kevin

EdZ,

Bang on observation. I posted the same observation awhile back. Tiger's right forearm postion may also axplain the problems he has had with his left knee. I am speculting on the damage caused by possible compensating motion that a great athlete his built into his swing.

In refeference to the other post, in this thread, I would be greatly interested in seeing Yoda work with Charles Barkley. It would be a greater challenge and IMHO a more productive experience for Mr. Barkley than the one he is currently undergoing.

If Sir Charles performed BASIS motion as many times as he has practiced the smoke & mirror drills, his progrees would be IMHO greatly advanced. Mr. Haney has done a complete reversal from a seminar he gave many years ago. He stated that drills do not work and that students do not perform them outside the lesson.

As Ben Doyle has said so often, "Once the facts are known the illusions disappear". The FLAT Left Wrist, a straight PLANE line, and LAG pressure point are the HOLY GRAIL for a golfer to achieve. The MAGIC of the Right Forearm is the WAY.

yep
 

I absolutely agree with your assessment, I find it interesting that Tiger is supposedly such a study in the great golf swings of the past, but he does not see something so simple that is holding back his ability to maintain his flying wedges. I am such a fan of his, but I cringe whenever he tries to hit a draw with a driver. Anyone see the shot he hit yesterday on 10? Can anyone say fore left?!

You know with a guy that good, a guy that can do anything, you have to feed the correct information into his computer. If Haney wants parallel planes, Tiger will do it. I saw Tiger warming up at the 08 Masters and he was awe inspiring and all but he did practice that drill that Hank does with Charles Barkley. The lay it off and bang the cart roof drill. Tiger didnt use the cart roof of course but instead stopped his start up when his hands got over his right thigh and then right hand wrist cocked the club from there directly up towards his right shoulder.

I told Yoda about this once and he replied something like "just give me five minutes with him".

I'm thinking about 1-L-18 as opposed to parallel plane lines. I see Lynn and Tiger sitting at a table with Lynn raising and lowering the angle of a book held on its edge. A yellow book, a white visor and a black TW Nike baseball hat. Oh and then Lynn laying his Right Forearm Flying Wedge on the table top too of course.

Saw Tiger warm up on the short game area on Sunday of this year's Masters. He stormed over to the chipping green and chipped maybe 10 balls with a mid or short iron before he he started taking full swings and launching balls over the practice green. He was boiling mad and was obviously not hitting it where he wanted. His misses were all landing within about 2 yards of each other, so the crowd was entertained, but he and Hank seemed to be having a pretty heated conversation. At one point, Hank even grabbed Tiger's club and aggressively pulled it through the followthrough trying to get him to feel some exaggerated move. Not what you want to be working on or thinking 5 minutes before stepping onto the first tee of Augusta National on Sunday...

All that to say...maybe at next year's Masters Yoda will get that 5 minutes! ;-)

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For all others interested . . .

The line forms at the rear!

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Orbit interference is un golf like
 

Man, I dont like the feel of things when an instructor grabs hold of my club. Sort of turns off the pressure points. Instant black out. Maybe for a visual or something but it kind of burns my backside too a little. And thats just me on a range. Cant believe anybody would do that to a golfer just before a tournament round, let alone the World Number One golfer on Sunday morning at Augusta. That takes some stones. Im thinking Tiger gave him a little lesson afterwards, maybe. I wonder who's backside was sore on Monday?

You might be right Bambam. About Tiger and Hank taking different (but parallel, hah) paths in the future. He did fire Butch when he thought they'd reached a saturation point. Something like "Im stuck", "Well dont get stuck", "Ya but Im stuck again and your gone". Or so it has been written anyways.

I got a feeling that Tiger will be o.k. though. Just a hunch.

How to train a Tiger?
 

The idea that Tiger could be better if he stopped bobbing...swaying...and kept his flying wedges intact may have unintended psychological consequences. Who knows maybe Tiger "needs" something to wrestle with, or "fix" to get some primordial juices flowing. Plus I like it when he sprays it! I used to enjoy watching Seve play.

I DO think better mechanics will increase his competitive shelf life...so I despatched a fan letter telling him all about TGM and recommended Yoda to him! Sorry Hank...but you have your hands full with Chucky! I expect a postive reply...any day now. :eyes:

Ok now that we got Tiger fixed , lets fix Sir Charles, then move on to Hogans Secret, figure out which type of ball is on the moon and then break for lunch.

I see Yoda working with Barkley too. He'll need more than 5 minutes though assuming it is a golf problem. Which is a big if. Poor guy. I have really learned to feel for his pain. Seems like a nice guy too. Anyways I see Yoda and Charles and some Wild Bill Melhourne drills. Charles walking and continuously hitting his way through a long line of balls, no stopping, no time to Bob. That and a diagram at lunch about the Geometry of the Circle and the left shoulder as center of the swing Radius. Dont move it, Charles. Maybe a little Extensor Action to tighten the Radius and please dont hit that carts roof just stop at Top and then Thrust Baby.

Oh the secret, it was a nice way to make some money and finally , Spalding Dot, no Faultless, Tounrey, crap I dunno. Whats for lunch? Lets grab a quick sandwich and go hit some balls.

Honestly, if Tiger would just go back to what John Anselmo taught him, he would be in better shape than with his current motion.

In the book "'A' Game Golf" Anselmo lays out drills that teach the magic of the right forearm (indirectly, but at least Tiger would get back the bent right wrist, which would get him on the right path again)

Peter Kostis actually faulted Tiger Woods for having his right forearm too high at address during a telecast. Hey, credit where credit is due, well, played, Peter. :)

How on earth...?
 

What manner of compensations are needed to get the right forearm on plane at impact from that high address position? So many of the best players do, so I am kinda curious how they do it.

Dipping down of the head for starters, more hip tilt, and more spine/axis tilt than at address than would otherwise be needed. Also more likely than not, manipulation of the hands to some degree to square up.

If the right forearm is set properly, a lot of 'slop' is taken out, for a much more efficient and stable motion.

Off-topic-ish, but from a down the line view, say right between the foot line and the plane line, when would the forearm and shaft appear inline and on plane?

The right forearm flying wedge should stay intact to provide support to the swing, but how that is seen down the line will depend on perspective/camera angle. Certainly at impact. Best to start another thread if you want to discuss this outside of Tiger's motion.

Thanks, Edz. So Tiger would improve if he set up any degree closer to his actual impact fix alignment? That seems remarkably simple! I say we keep all of this a secret and watch Brian scale the world rankings!

Strength in numbers
 

Ed,

Isn't it interesting that when you understand TGM, we draw similar conclusions? Can't argue with Physics or Geometry for that matter.

Check out posts 75 on

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...iger#post57710

Drew

Yes indeed...... and another from early 2008....

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=5429

It sure does help to have a common language and understanding of "the" goal - sustain the line of compression, and the alignments needed to get to that goal (the flying wedges).

Despite many seeing TGM as complex, it can be boiled down to simple concepts and alignments. A level right wrist and the flying wedges are big shortcuts!

No magic of the right forearm...
 

No magic of the right forearm...in this case

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m77BTqBj7Bo

Practicing from Impact fix - and just leaving everthing right there - would be a good start.

Wow, now that is surprising. :o

yep - that is the problem, he thinks impact and address are the same, and that the right forearm should be 'high' at address.

The problem in that view is that it only works with a true swinger, and there is zero margin for error. It also assumes low point of the clubhead is at ground level, just under the ball, rather than below ground ahead of the ball. Not to mention the lack of right arm power loss.

Most shots I saw were right forearm high at impact...besides, seems like head bob was even more.

Besides not having his right forarm on plane. Looked like he was releasing his #2 Accumulator from the outside which means he wasn't using 10-20-E (Wrist throw) correctly; to go down and out on the plane. Off course he couldn't use it correctly because there wasn't any magic in his right forearm.

On a positive note, Tiger is not on a Haney parallel to the shaft plane, plane at top. The butt end of his club is pointing at the target line as per 1-L-18 , a good thing.
Hank might not like this though.

To me it looks like his bowed left wrist is disrupting his flying wedges, not that he knows of them or even considers them maybe. Too bad. They are just alignments, precision alignments, after all.

Can you imagine what that guy could do with if he had TGM's precision alignments and consistency. Yikes.

Looks like Tiger is getting back on track based on what I saw at the Open.

His takeaway is much, much better. His hands and chest are moving together again, similar to 2000. A 'connected' move.

A slight left hand grip adjustment, and a level right wrist at address and he is back in place to have another huge year like 2000.

Perhaps 2010 is the year for the 'slam', and with the U.S. Open at Pebble again :)

the line drawing was in no way precise, interesting that Tiger doesn't require the magic of the whatever nor did any great player
for every example you show of an onplane RF , there is examples of the same player being offplane
Now did the player hit a better shot is all that matters

The forearm is closer to being on plane here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N-N...om=PL&index=32