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Sean1 04-08-2010 07:03 PM

My Lesson With Drew. :-)
 
I had my lesson with Drew today. He's a real gentleman. He gave me something I haven't had in a long time in golf: hope. The man really knows the golf swing. I've had lessons in the past, but none have been so thorough and explained in a way that I could really understand. This is what we covered today:

--Flat left wrist, bent right wrist.
--Flying wedge.
--Waist bend.
--Pressure points.
--Right shoulder down plane.
--If I hit the ball fat I've run out of my right arm.
--If I hit the ball right I came up out of my posture and my right shoulder not down and through.

I know I have a lot of work to do, and I need to be patient, but Drew has given me some tools to work with. Things feel different, much different. My stance feels more athletic, and when I implement the flying wedge, flat left wrist, and bent right wrist the results are startling. It feels...strange. I need to work on it regularly so it doesn't feels so strange but becomes second nature. Drew also gave me a copy of TGM!

One last thing Drew taught me was the TGM secret handshake. :-)

By far it was the best lesson I've ever had. Drew is a master of his craft and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him to anyone wanting to learn the swing. Drew was a true gentleman and a consummate professional. I look forward to my next lesson...but not until I've worked on what we discussed!

innercityteacher 04-08-2010 08:24 PM

The decoder ring comes when you breal 90!
 
Sean, geometry is one of God's way of telling you you are never ever lost or alone, even on a golf course!

Isn't it amazing how naturally and logically the pieces of the geometric concepts fit together!

Too bad it's still snowing in Boston, LMAO!

Sheer grooviness! :laughing9

Patrick




Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean1 (Post 71869)
I had my lesson with Drew today. He's a real gentleman. He gave me something I haven't had in a long time in golf: hope. The man really knows the golf swing. I've had lessons in the past, but none have been so thorough and explained in a way that I could really understand. This is what we covered today:

--Flat left wrist, bent right wrist.
--Flying wedge.
--Waist bend.
--Pressure points.
--Right shoulder down plane.
--If I hit the ball fat I've run out of my right arm.
--If I hit the ball right I came up out of my posture and my right shoulder not down and through.

I know I have a lot of work to do, and I need to be patient, but Drew has given me some tools to work with. Things feel different, much different. My stance feels more athletic, and when I implement the flying wedge, flat left wrist, and bent right wrist the results are startling. It feels...strange. I need to work on it regularly so it doesn't feels so strange but becomes second nature. Drew also gave me a copy of TGM!

One last thing Drew taught me was the TGM secret handshake. :-)

By far it was the best lesson I've ever had. Drew is a master of his craft and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him to anyone wanting to learn the swing. Drew was a true gentleman and a consummate professional. I look forward to my next lesson...but not until I've worked on what we discussed!


Delaware Golf 04-08-2010 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean1 (Post 71869)
I had my lesson with Drew today. He's a real gentleman. He gave me something I haven't had in a long time in golf: hope. The man really knows the golf swing. I've had lessons in the past, but none have been so thorough and explained in a way that I could really understand. This is what we covered today:

--Flat left wrist, bent right wrist.
--Flying wedge.
--Waist bend.
--Pressure points.
--Right shoulder down plane.
--If I hit the ball fat I've run out of my right arm.
--If I hit the ball right I came up out of my posture and my right shoulder not down and through.

I know I have a lot of work to do, and I need to be patient, but Drew has given me some tools to work with. Things feel different, much different. My stance feels more athletic, and when I implement the flying wedge, flat left wrist, and bent right wrist the results are startling. It feels...strange. I need to work on it regularly so it doesn't feels so strange but becomes second nature. Drew also gave me a copy of TGM!

One last thing Drew taught me was the TGM secret handshake. :-)

By far it was the best lesson I've ever had. Drew is a master of his craft and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him to anyone wanting to learn the swing. Drew was a true gentleman and a consummate professional. I look forward to my next lesson...but not until I've worked on what we discussed!


Hit the ball fat, it means too much right arm...the right arm outpacing the pivot.

Hit the ball thin, hips/lower body have out paced the arms/right arm.

Totally the opposite of what was mentioned.

DG

Sean1 04-08-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 71871)
Sean, geometry is one of God's way of telling you you are never ever lost or alone, even on a golf course!

Isn't it amazing how naturally and logically the pieces of the geometric concepts fit together!

Too bad it's still snowing in Boston, LMAO!

Sheer grooviness! :laughing9

Patrick

It feels different, but it feels right. It's a foreign move for me and will take some getting used to.

The snow is melting. :laughing9

12 piece bucket 04-09-2010 08:56 AM

Told you so!!!! Drew is one of the very best Machinists out there! Stick with it/him man . . . . life will change.

12 piece bucket 04-09-2010 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 71874)
Hit the ball fat, it means too much right arm...the right arm outpacing the pivot.

Hit the ball thin, hips/lower body have out paced the arms/right arm.

Totally the opposite of what was mentioned.

DG

Not sure y'all are talking about the same component.

KevCarter 04-09-2010 10:19 AM

Drew, GREAT JOB, thanks for giving our buddy hope!!!

Kevin

O.B.Left 04-09-2010 10:34 AM

Sean next time you meet with Drew can you please give him a lesson on how to upload video to the internet...........that man is sitting on some valuable footage and knowledge. Stuff the golf world needs to know. People are suffering out there without a "motion that makes the shot".

The world wants to know........."who is Drew Chapman?" And why is he saying those terrible things about Mike O.?

drewitgolf 04-09-2010 06:18 PM

The Anatomy of Sean's Lesson
 
In Tommy Armour’s landmark book “How to Play Your Best Golf All the Time” he states that “there are at least six people who want to be taught golf to every one that wants to learn”. Fortunately for me, Sean fell into the latter category. He is a true seeker, every astute, articulate and a fine person.
With Sean’s permission, the following is brief outline of some of the things we discussed:
His athletic background and physical condition.
His Golfing Goals
The Four Prerequisites that should take place during the lesson.
Making changes and their different sensations.
The Geometry of the Circle and the player’s responsibility in creating a Three Dimensional Impact as well as the Clubs responsibility.
The three Functions of the Club and their corresponding Imperatives.
Basic Motion.
Impact Fix, setting the Flying Wedges, and their relationship to the Address and Balance.
We determined that Sean is a Hitter based on his own beliefs as well as his Loading Action at the Top and his active use of the Right Arm.
The normal condition of the Arms, especially maintaining the Flying Wedges at least until Follow Through.
Homer’s simple idea of the Right Forearm Angle of Approach.
We studied pictures of great ball strikers from the past.
The precise use and feel of certain Pressure Points (Direct Drive #1 and Indirect Drive #3)
The motion of the Right shoulder down plane and the avoidance of running out of my right arm because of a Flat Downstroke Shoulder Turn and its resulting Clubhead Throwaway.
How Over-Acceleration Kills Alignments and Lag.
Drills, Drills, Drills
The TGM secret handshake.
Not booking another lesson until certain things happen.

I am sure we talked about more than I have listed. Above all else, Sean hit some beautiful shots that sounded and looked different, which made us both happy :) .

drewitgolf 04-09-2010 06:24 PM

Don't Get it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 71874)
Hit the ball fat, it means too much right arm...the right arm outpacing the pivot.

Hit the ball thin, hips/lower body have out paced the arms/right arm.

Totally the opposite of what was mentioned.

DG

I am not sure what you mean DG. What did he mention that was totally opposite?

KevCarter 04-09-2010 06:24 PM

WOW, VERY IMPRESSIVE LESSON!!! :salut: :salut: :salut:

I really need to get to Cuscowilla for more training. I couldn't come close to accomplishing all that in one session... :golfcart:

Kevin

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 71919)
In Tommy Armour’s landmark book “How to Play Your Best Golf All the Time” he states that “there are at least six people who want to be taught golf to every one that wants to learn”. Fortunately for me, Sean fell into the latter category. He is a true seeker, every astute, articulate and a fine person.
With Sean’s permission, the following is brief outline of some of the things we discussed:
His athletic background and physical condition.
His Golfing Goals
The Four Prerequisites that should take place during the lesson.
Making changes and their different sensations.
The Geometry of the Circle and the player’s responsibility in creating a Three Dimensional Impact as well as the Clubs responsibility.
The three Functions of the Club and their corresponding Imperatives.
Basic Motion.
Impact Fix, setting the Flying Wedges, and their relationship to the Address and Balance.
We determined that Sean is a Hitter based on his own beliefs as well as his Loading Action at the Top and his active use of the Right Arm.
The normal condition of the Arms, especially maintaining the Flying Wedges at least until Follow Through.
Homer’s simple idea of the Right Forearm Angle of Approach.
We studied pictures of great ball strikers from the past.
The precise use and feel of certain Pressure Points (Direct Drive #1 and Indirect Drive #3)
The motion of the Right shoulder down plane and the avoidance of running out of my right arm because of a Flat Downstroke Shoulder Turn and its resulting Clubhead Throwaway.
How Over-Acceleration Kills Alignments and Lag.
Drills, Drills, Drills
The TGM secret handshake.
Not booking another lesson until certain things happen.

I am sure we talked about more than I have listed. Above all else, Sean hit some beautiful shots that sounded and looked different, which made us both happy :) .


drewitgolf 04-09-2010 06:30 PM

Lesson in Motion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 71907)
People are suffering out there without a "motion that makes the shot".

And why is he saying those terrible things about Mike O.?

We discussed letting the Motion Make the Shot, but you knew we would.

Also, I gave Sean a copy of my secret files on the forum members, which he agreed to destroy after memorizing. They contain all the infomation on who can :salut: and can not be trusted :naughty: .

O.B.Left 04-09-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 71922)
We discussed letting the Motion Make the Shot, but you knew we would.

Also, I gave Sean a copy of my secret files on the forum members, which he agreed to destroy after memorizing. They contain all the infomation on who can :salut: and can not be trusted :naughty: .


Secret hand shakes. Secret files on members. You showed Sean a lot of stuff for a first lesson, there Drew.

Did you show him Hogan's secret too? HOw bout Kim Jong-IL's X Classification Release Throw? Tell him what type of golf ball is on the moon? Is the Colonels secret recipe still known only to the free world?

We need the Truth! How many beans did you spill in that session anyways?

innercityteacher 04-09-2010 09:29 PM

Sean can also submit a top 40 song from the 80's
 
Once the correct compression of the ball on the moon is revealed to him at sea level in New England. I will attempt to lyricise important swing thoughts for his fav tune once I learn Kevin's George Strait tune.

And Jerry, I have you pegged as a Guess Who or Dooby Bros. man.

"American Golfer, stay away from meeeee
American hacker buddy let me beee
Don't come flippin around my door
I don't need your shanks no more..."

Anyway Jerry, you can see how it just bubbles up at odd moments.

Sean, rock the golf practice, baby! :golfcart:

Patrick








Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 71923)
Secret hand shakes. Secret files on members. You showed Sean a lot of stuff for a first lesson, there Drew.

Did you show him Hogan's secret too? HOw bout Kim Jong-IL's X Classification Release Throw? Tell him what type of golf ball is on the moon? Is the Colonels secret recipe still known only to the free world?

We need the Truth!


Sean1 04-10-2010 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 71894)
Told you so!!!! Drew is one of the very best Machinists out there! Stick with it/him man . . . . life will change.

I worked on my short game this morning and can feel/see the results. The full swing will take a bit more getting used to. I started TGM as well. I don't claim to understand all of it, but Drew created a great picture for me to get me on the right road. I'm looking forward to my journey. :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 71903)
Drew, GREAT JOB, thanks for giving our buddy hope!!!

Kevin

And he did just that. :golf:

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 71907)
Sean next time you meet with Drew can you please give him a lesson on how to upload video to the internet...........that man is sitting on some valuable footage and knowledge. Stuff the golf world needs to know. People are suffering out there without a "motion that makes the shot".

The world wants to know........."who is Drew Chapman?" And why is he saying those terrible things about Mike O.?

I haven't uploaded video but I think I can figure it out. Maybe after my next lesson, and if Drew as time, I could show him?

Sean1 04-10-2010 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 71922)
We discussed letting the Motion Make the Shot, but you knew we would.

Also, I gave Sean a copy of my secret files on the forum members, which he agreed to destroy after memorizing. They contain all the infomation on who can :salut: and can not be trusted :naughty: .

Yes, thanks to Drew I now know all of your secrets but, in the spirit of TGM, they will remain just that: secret. :laughing9

Sean1 04-10-2010 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.B.Left (Post 71923)
Secret hand shakes. Secret files on members. You showed Sean a lot of stuff for a first lesson, there Drew.

Did you show him Hogan's secret too? HOw bout Kim Jong-IL's X Classification Release Throw? Tell him what type of golf ball is on the moon? Is the Colonels secret recipe still known only to the free world?

We need the Truth! How many beans did you spill in that session anyways?

OB, you forgot the recipe for Coca-Cola!

O.B.Left 04-10-2010 01:22 AM

He gave you that one too! That is one hell of a session you had there. That's got to be some kind of record.

KevCarter 04-10-2010 09:09 AM

I got a hold of the good guy - bad guy list. Very disappointing. Don't click the link if you don't have a thick skin...

Drew's List

drewitgolf 04-10-2010 09:44 AM

Makin' a list, checkin' it twice....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 71937)
I got a hold of the good guy - bad guy list. Very disappointing. Don't click the link if you don't have a thick skin...

Drew's List

To be honest, Rick needs a little help with his Hula-Hula flexibility to be able to move on the range like I do. His two assistants, however, have potential.

KevCarter 04-10-2010 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewitgolf (Post 71938)
To be honest, Rick needs a little help with his Hula-Hula flexibility to be able to move on the range like I do. His two assistants, however, have potential.

Would you start with Hula-Hula? I'm troubled by the fact Rick can't get his right forearm even close to on plane... :salut:

Kevin

KevCarter 04-10-2010 10:02 AM

You don't know Amarillo By Morning? Thats un-American! :eyes: :)

What do you do in Philly, just sit around listening to the theme from Rocky? :laughing9

Kevin

Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 71925)
Once the correct compression of the ball on the moon is revealed to him at sea level in New England. I will attempt to lyricise important swing thoughts for his fav tune once I learn Kevin's George Strait tune.

And Jerry, I have you pegged as a Guess Who or Dooby Bros. man.

"American Golfer, stay away from meeeee
American hacker buddy let me beee
Don't come flippin around my door
I don't need your shanks no more..."

Anyway Jerry, you can see how it just bubbles up at odd moments.

Sean, rock the golf practice, baby! :golfcart:

Patrick


JerryG 04-10-2010 06:14 PM

InnerCity....
Dooby Bros, Simon and Garfunkel, Fred Wesley, Peter Martin, Mose Allison, Haydn, Beethoven, Sousa, Ken Nordin, J.S. Bach and the boys...
I love it all.
First time out today and concentrated on maintaining those flying wedges, right shoulder down, FLW-BRW, got cocky with the hinges... Man, this is fun.
Thanks Yoda and Kev.

innercityteacher 04-10-2010 09:52 PM

So what was the score?
 
We want analysis! Lies, excuses! :golfcart: I am still freezing from this morning!

Patrick



Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryG (Post 71941)
InnerCity....
Dooby Bros, Simon and Garfunkel, Fred Wesley, Peter Martin, Mose Allison, Haydn, Beethoven, Sousa, Ken Nordin, J.S. Bach and the boys...
I love it all.
First time out today and concentrated on maintaining those flying wedges, right shoulder down, FLW-BRW, got cocky with the hinges... Man, this is fun.
Thanks Yoda and Kev.


JerryG 04-10-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 71946)
We want analysis! Lies, excuses! :golfcart: I am still freezing from this morning!

Patrick

Silly fellow,
Suffice it to say there is no need for lies and excuses anymore.
I have alignments and geometry working for me. No score report in case today was a fluke. Actually, I expect even better things to come.

KevCarter 04-11-2010 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryG (Post 71948)
Silly fellow,
Suffice it to say there is no need for lies and excuses anymore.
I have alignments and geometry working for me. No score report in case today was a fluke. Actually, I expect even better things to come.

I think all the hard work you are doing teaching your students the fundamentals of the Machine are helping you work on the same fundamentals. No Voodoo or guessing. Payback, Karma, The Golden Rule. Good things for good people! :golfcart:

Kevin

innercityteacher 04-11-2010 05:28 PM

Yes, bery good point, Kevin.
 
I meant the "lies and excuses," in the spirit of colorful stories. But with geometric precision comes simple cause and effect!

Very good. :)

Patrick




Quote:

Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 71952)
I think all the hard work you are doing teaching your students the fundamentals of the Machine are helping you work on the same fundamentals. No Voodoo or guessing. Payback, Karma, The Golden Rule. Good things for good people! :golfcart:

Kevin


mark 04-13-2010 03:20 PM

fat and thin
 
When the ball is hit fat , think about the Geomatry of the circle, the centre ,the left shoulder moves backwards to much , the low point changes , thinned or fat shots !!!!!!!!!:crybaby: The Geometry of the circle changes !!!!!!!!!! The pivot must be correct, pulling the hands and handle of the club through to follow through . sustain the lag ! :salut:


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