Right Forearm Take-Away
 

The Right Forearm Take-Away creates an important alignment before the Backstroke begins.

Which of the following identifies this critical Alignment?

1. The Flat Left Wrist creating the Primary Lever.
2. The Left Arm crossing the Chest at 45 degrees
3. The Flying Wedge Structure
4. The Right Forearm On-Plane.

That would be the Right forearm on plane Daryl. What do we have for Pat tonite? We have a new car!!!!!

The action of the right forearm takeaway is an up motion of the right forearm from address per 7-3, (the fanning motion is a result of having the left hand and arm attached to the club)...or as Tom Tomasello said, a folding or levering of the right forearm from address...once you truly understand that motion and can execute it flawlessly, your swing and game will go to another level. Magic of the Right Forearm gentlemen. Your backswing confusion will no longer be an issue.

DG

If you don't have a copy of the Tom Tomasello 1991 interview that explains the forearm motion...PM me and provide your regular email address, I will send you a copy.

DG

It's an folding or Levering move
 

The action of the right forearm takeaway is an up motion of the right forearm from address per 7-3 (the fanning motion is a result of having the left hand and arm attached to the club)...or as Tom Tomasello said, a folding or levering of the right forearm from address...once you truly understand that motion and can execute it flawlessly, your swing and game will go to another level. Magic of the Right Forearm gentlemen. Your backswing confusion will no longer be an issue.

If you don't have a copy of the Tom Tomasello 1991 interview that explains the forearm motion...PM me and provide your regular email address, I will send you a copy.

DG

I'm convinced that the RFT is the absolute best way to start the swing. I was having a lot of inconsistency with my swing using a STT. I practiced tonight using the RFT, and I was hitting long lasers. Delaware Tommy's swing + an old school heel lift type pivot = Godly ballstiking. The drill he shows in the video actually had me doing the RFT incorrectly. I was rotation the club to a toe up position, and then cocking the club up with my right bicep, Opps:crybaby:

Is this right arm move the same regardless of being a hitter or a swinger?

Actually Tommy's GI interview describes the up and down motion of the right forearm perfectly as Homer describes it per section 7-3. I believe the drill you're talking about (the 10 step sequence drill), that first move, the one to two position is to show/demonstrate the right wrist (only) bends and the left wrist turns and cocks. However, during actual play, if you are going to use the right forearm takeaway, its a folding up of the right forearm from the address position....it's a very precise movement. Not surprised you were crushing the ball. :) It's a great feeling not to guess where the club is going in the backswing. It's "The Magic of the Right Forearm"...that it is....

DG

Yes, but the execution of the right forearm has to comply with the left wrist action 18-C-2 (single wrist action versus standard wrist action) per the action addressed in 7-19-2 (by resisting the Backstroke motion for Drive Loading). The number three power accumlator during a right forearm takeaway wants to rotate naturally, so the golfer needs to resist that natural rotation by resisting it with the right forearm (reference the first two paragraphs in 7-3). So with the hitting motion you have three things happening simultaneously....extensor action, bending of the right elbow and resisiting the natural rotation of the (left forearm and wrist) with the right arm. Takes a little bit of coordination and concentration. But once you grasp the movements and with some practice, the movement becomes as natural as swinging with the right forearm takeaway.

I recommend re-reading section 7-3 on a regular basis, much to learn in that section alone. The Golfing Machine is an excellent text to develop the habit of learning a subject by continual re-reading. During a 5 or 6 year stretch, I read the book on a daily basis.

As Tom Tomasello said to me on the driving range at Deer Track Resort in Myrtle Beach...."to get this game in your hip pocket you need to learn both hitting and swinging".


DG

I assume this is kind wha JB Holmes does or maybe what Ricky Fowler does in his backswing.

The sad part is that I spent 5 years doing it wrong. :golf: Oh well... Time to view my old 'Knowledge' vid to see what else I got wrong.

Can we talk Extensor Action for a moment, Daryl?
 

I have read here, and seen on video that Extensor Action is a "gentle tug." I have found, however that the strong EA pull as I trace BLP, yields awesome results! I hit some of my longest drives today, ever, and straightest, longest irons and hybrids as well.

Sadly for me, several irons flew over the pins I aimed at by 10 or 15 yards in the thickest rough on course. All I could manage was a 45/39. :crybaby:

What is the logical explanation for what I'm experiencing? Am I misunderstanding something important while I add 1.5 club lengths to my boyish charm and John Wayne rugged good looks?

MOI

Tomasello Letter Videos....its in there.
 

I don't believe it's a Tomasello issue, its where you are in your understanding and execution. Geeezzzz, a number of PGA Tour players are still confused about the backswing. Look at how many do that short little backswing like they're trying to remind themselves where the club should go!!! It's amazing at that level they feel the need to make that move (not necessary at all, conceptually they don't have a precision motion or they would eliminate that movement)...TGM is the answer. RFT. I recommend watching the Lee Detrick set of videos....Tommy is continually showing the viewer the up and down motion of the right forearm in those videos.

DG

If I am standing erect with a BRW centered to the middle of my body(no left hand connection) and in a punch elbow position (elbow stationary) then trace the plane line with the right forearm I see this move as a level and maybe a sense of a lateral motion with the right forearm, causing the wrist to move in an arc. Please correct me if I'm wrong but this to me is 'fanning'.

When I connect the left hand to right hand with a SSA grip type then set up to Impact Fix with EA and do the same right forearm tracing as above... means, to me, a (not the) RFT.

If I match that tracing with a pivot and EA, along with the clubhead momentum the right elbow will bend as an effect.

The sequence of clubhead motion would then be back, up and in... as opposed to the right forearm pick up creating more of an up, back and in movement of the clubhead.

I feel that no resistance to rotation is necessary when the right elbow placement is secure at address whether it is in punch, pitch or push. The natural amount of rotation, or lack of, takes place at the right time using any educated elbow postion.

Am I looking at this the wrong way?

Thanks in advance

Yes, I would read section 7-3 repeatly, I suggest three or four times. The motion of the right forearm is an up and down motion, a karate chop motion. The fanning motion is a result of having the left hand on the club...accumulator 3 motion. Read 6-B-3-0. This is a classic....seperate the Facts from the Illusions issue. See VIII.

DG

I see no contridiction to 7-3, 6-B-3-0 or VIII in my description. The Flying Wedges set precisely when I do it this way.

I am not saying that the right forearm in not an up and down motion. What I am saying is that when the right forearm is moved in a 'level' manner the clubhead moves more so in a back, up and in direction. If I do this with the shaft resting on a bench it works perfectly....no illusion.

That being said, the only true "backward" movement of the clubhead would be found more in the lagging clubhead takeaway.

I totally agree that the right forearm is moving up and down and can be felt like a karate chop action or even that of a hammering action.

As I see it the combination of EA and RFT is fanning such as in the Basic Motion. The combination of EA, RFT and Pivot is fanning plus right elbow bend in the Acquired Motion. If continued further then it moves into Total Motion. The right elbow must bend due to the checkrein of the left arm connection.

The feeling or illusion of being level in the beginning of the movement keeps everything on plane as long as the elbow doesn't move out of its alignment like in a chip shot. And, as long as it doesn't out run the pivot in longer shots.

Thanks Spike. That's where I was trying to go with my poorly worded EA question.
 

If I add extra strong EA and make that hammering or chopping motion, I then feel like I have very "tight" control of # 3 PP and I then enjoy hitting the begeebers (technical term Daryl and OB may not understand) out of the ball with lots of control and vigor (not Viagra, Daryl, calm down with those skanky pics you've been perusing).

If I just do a "easy" EA, I can't really enjoy the control of # 3 pp like I feel I need to for golfing fun and financial gain. Of course, I don't belong to a fancy club like DARYL, but I do enjoy my modest municipal course where a $2 Nassau is a big deal.

Patrick

Deleware,

I like the idea of RFT but cannot seem to bring it back along the same plane at impact.
I use a shoulder plane, but geometrical the right forearm seem compatable with the clubshaft plane line at impact.

Is the RFT compatable with a pitch elbow? In other words with RFT do I end up with more punch or pitch or not relevant?

Delaware,

After my own review of the RAS, the right elbow must replace the left shoulder as the swing center. This would be consistent with minor stroke with BAT elbow 10-3-K. Of course it an be used with full motion as you have describe.
You are right this is not for me!
I prefer to have the left arm/elbow swinging and the right arm/elbow driving.



Refer to Yoda
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ighlight=elbow

Can anyone illustrate how, geometrically, the right elbow can serve as the swing center in a right arm swinger?

One Arm . . . Two Possible Actions and Centers
 

No, because it doesn't.

:shock:

The Right Elbow serves as the Center of the Stroke only in the Bat Minor Basic Stroke, a 'Hitting' Stroke in which the Club is accelerated radially (from behind the Shaft).

With the Right Arm Swing, the Club is accelerated longitudinally -- lengthwise in the direction it is pointing -- with the Left Shoulder serving as the Center of the arc.

Yoda,
Thanks. That does clear some more air for me.

Clear'in' the Fog
 

Glad to hear it, monkutare. Thanks for hangin' 'round LynnBlakeGolf.com.

:salut:

pp#3
 

I have read that the pp#3 traces the line. My question is

the pp#3...is it a vertical or horizontal tracing. yes up, back

AND IN.......99 OUT OF 100 people know the answer. I am # 100

i am trying to visualize it, help would be appreciated

thanks

Take your normal grip. Mentally locate PP3 and then just straighten that finger whilst keeping PP3 in situ.

Your finger will act as a pointer with which to trace as you make your slow mo' practise swings.

Point your finger at the target line, the base of your plane line, and then trace (point at) that line all the way back to infinity until your clubshaft reaches parallel to the target line.

Trace this same line on your downswing from that point right through till your clubshaft is parallel to the target line in the opposite direction.

Get the feel of things this way and then curl your finger around the grip as normal and just take it from there.