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EdZ 02-27-2010 04:17 PM

Feeling a horizontal hinge
 
Swinger's can get caught up in swivel as a hinge action, and it is important to understand what a horizontal hinge action means.

As an example, get into an impact fix position - left arm and shaft in line (face on), right forearm and shaft in line (down the line). Weight on the left side. Hips open about 30-45 degrees, shoulders basically matching the target line. Right foot rolled onto the inside edge.

Now without changing the lower body, lift the hands and arms up to chest high.

The clubface (leading edge) should be vertical to the ground.

More importantly, for a true horizontal hinge motion, that leading edge should stay vertical to the ground through the motion. Technically speaking, it only matter's from impact to separation, but you want to feel it though the motion.

The trick to understanding the feel is to get the feel first on the horizontal plane, with your hands out in front of you.

From that position, practice turning back and through, keeping the clubface (leading edge) vertical to the ground.

Physics will want you to turn/roll, even on the horizontal plane, but don't do it. It may feel like a turn and roll on the inclined plane, but when doing this drill on the horizontal plane, don't turn and roll.

On the horizontal plane, this may feel somewhat like a frisbee throw, or a baseball swing (again, with no turn/roll).

Keep moving back and through on the horizontal plane until you really get the feeling of keeping that clubface vertical to the ground. Back and through, back and through. Feel how the arms move to allow that motion.

Once you have a solid feeling on the horizontal plane, keep moving back and through as you slowly move to lower and lower (more inclined) planes.

The closer to a golf swing you get (the more inclined), the more it looks and starts to feel like a true turn and roll but it is NOT A SWIVEL. The left wrist is still vertical to the ground, just like on the horizontal plane.

If you lose the feel of the vertical left wrist, move back up to the horizontal plane.

Keep that feeling of a vertical left wrist (to the ground) on the inclined plane.

Yoda 03-04-2010 01:40 AM

From the Choir
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdZ (Post 71225)

Swingers can get caught up in swivel as a hinge action, and it is important to understand what a horizontal hinge action means.

As an example, get into an impact fix position - left arm and shaft in line (face on), right forearm and shaft in line (down the line). Weight on the left side. Hips open about 30-45 degrees, shoulders basically matching the target line. Right foot rolled onto the inside edge.

Now without changing the lower body, lift the hands and arms up to chest high.

The clubface (leading edge) should be vertical to the ground.

More importantly, for a true horizontal hinge motion, that leading edge should stay verticle to the ground through the motion. Technically speaking, it only matter's from impact to separation, but you want to feel it though the motion.

The trick to understanding the feel is to get the feel first on the horizontal plane, with your hands out in front of you.

From that position, practice turning back and through, keeping the clubface (leading edge) vertical to the ground.

Physics will want you to turn/roll, even on the horizontal plane, but don't do it. It may feel like a turn and roll on the inclined plane, but when doing this drill on the horizontal plane, don't turn and roll.

On the horizontal plane, this may feel somewhat like a frisbee throw, or a baseball swing (again, with no turn/roll).

Keep moving back and through on the horizontal plane until you really get the feeling of keeping that clubface verticle to the ground. Back and through, back and through. Feel how the arms move to allow that motion.

Once you have a solid feeling on the horizontal plane, keep moving back and through as you slowly move to lower and lower (more inclined) planes.

The closer to a golf swing you get (the more inclined), the more it looks and starts to feel like a true turn and roll but it is NOT A SWIVEL. The left wrist is still vertical to the ground, just like on the horizontal plane.

If you lose the feel of the verticle left wrist, move back up to the horizontal plane.

Keep that feeling of a vertical left wrist (to the ground) on the inclined plane.

Great stuff, EdZ.

Thanks!

:salut:

O.B.Left 03-04-2010 11:10 AM

Thanks EdZ

The business of lowering it down to the Inclined Plane incrementally, bit by bit is a real eye opener. Fantastic. It is not a Swivel! Though many try to make it one.


And now a weird question. The Basic Planes, are they arbitrary? An alignment aid superior to monitoring the clubface vis a vis the Plane Line for sure but arbitrary all the same? My apologies if this is a little obtuse. Those darn hand rolled cigarettes that Bucket gave me are kickin in again. Hey whats your favorite candy bar?

innercityteacher 03-27-2010 07:54 PM

Ed, thanks for the drill.
 
Would you say that the horizontal hinge emphasises the right hand/trail hand heel palm/palm push forward ahead of the clubface?

Patrick



Quote:

Originally Posted by EdZ (Post 71225)
Swinger's can get caught up in swivel as a hinge action, and it is important to understand what a horizontal hinge action means.

As an example, get into an impact fix position - left arm and shaft in line (face on), right forearm and shaft in line (down the line). Weight on the left side. Hips open about 30-45 degrees, shoulders basically matching the target line. Right foot rolled onto the inside edge.

Now without changing the lower body, lift the hands and arms up to chest high.

The clubface (leading edge) should be vertical to the ground.

More importantly, for a true horizontal hinge motion, that leading edge should stay vertical to the ground through the motion. Technically speaking, it only matter's from impact to separation, but you want to feel it though the motion.

The trick to understanding the feel is to get the feel first on the horizontal plane, with your hands out in front of you.

From that position, practice turning back and through, keeping the clubface (leading edge) vertical to the ground.

Physics will want you to turn/roll, even on the horizontal plane, but don't do it. It may feel like a turn and roll on the inclined plane, but when doing this drill on the horizontal plane, don't turn and roll.

On the horizontal plane, this may feel somewhat like a frisbee throw, or a baseball swing (again, with no turn/roll).

Keep moving back and through on the horizontal plane until you really get the feeling of keeping that clubface vertical to the ground. Back and through, back and through. Feel how the arms move to allow that motion.

Once you have a solid feeling on the horizontal plane, keep moving back and through as you slowly move to lower and lower (more inclined) planes.

The closer to a golf swing you get (the more inclined), the more it looks and starts to feel like a true turn and roll but it is NOT A SWIVEL. The left wrist is still vertical to the ground, just like on the horizontal plane.

If you lose the feel of the vertical left wrist, move back up to the horizontal plane.

Keep that feeling of a vertical left wrist (to the ground) on the inclined plane.


mb6606 03-27-2010 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 71653)
Would you say that the horizontal hinge emphasises the right hand/trail hand heel palm/palm push forward ahead of the clubface?

Patrick

Picture a swinging door opening and closing = horizontal hinge.
Even a swing one foot back one forward has hinge action. Try it with your putter - practice all 3 hinges with your putter and you will understand hinge action.

innercityteacher 03-27-2010 11:55 PM

???? Is that all I have to do to crush the ball?
 
Level front wrist/back wrist hinge the back forearm at waist level until it turns me and then....................

PLANT AND CLAP!!!???/close the door ala Ricky Fowler?????

TOO Easy :laughing9




Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606 (Post 71656)
Picture a swinging door opening and closing = horizontal hinge.
Even a swing one foot back one forward has hinge action. Try it with your putter - practice all 3 hinges with your putter and you will understand hinge action.


mb6606 03-28-2010 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 71659)
Level front wrist/back wrist hinge the back forearm at waist level until it turns me and then....................

PLANT AND CLAP!!!???/close the door ala Ricky Fowler?????

TOO Easy :laughing9

Mr. Homer Kelley stated you only needed to do three things in the golf swing. Take the club up the turned shoulder plane, down the turned shoulder plane and learn a hinge.

innercityteacher 03-28-2010 10:22 PM

Before playing today I practiced some shots.
 
:laughing1

Did horizontal hinging. Very powerful but I was hooking my 6 iron almost 30 feet left of target though it flew about 170 yards with temp of 40 degrees on the range.

Did some pick ups and chops. Powerful, angled hinge ball stays straight, feels like sweet spot. Do you keep the right hand frozen in wedge as you "chop" trying to copy a karate chop or is that too literal?

Since we had a little tourney today, I went to the swing with a pick-up and right hip drive. Very straight and long enough.

Will practice the hinges. Shot a 42/50 w/38 putts top dressed greens, wind, 34 degrees on back 9. UGH. :salut:
Thanks. Patrick

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb6606 (Post 71671)
Mr. Homer Kelley stated you only needed to do three things in the golf swing. Take the club up the turned shoulder plane, down the turned shoulder plane and learn a hinge.


mb6606 03-29-2010 05:20 PM

Right wrist stays bent left wrist karate chops. If you are hooking your clubface is closed at impact. Make sure you hinge and not early swivel. Check out Yoda http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/index.p...sh-Swivel.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by innercityteacher (Post 71679)
:laughing1

Did horizontal hinging. Very powerful but I was hooking my 6 iron almost 30 feet left of target though it flew about 170 yards with temp of 40 degrees on the range.

Did some pick ups and chops. Powerful, angled hinge ball stays straight, feels like sweet spot. Do you keep the right hand frozen in wedge as you "chop" trying to copy a karate chop or is that too literal?

Since we had a little tourney today, I went to the swing with a pick-up and right hip drive. Very straight and long enough.

Will practice the hinges. Shot a 42/50 w/38 putts topdressed greens, wind, 34 degrees on back 9. UGH. :salut:


Thanks. Patrick



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