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jerry1967 10-22-2010 09:48 AM

Flipping-golfing machine all wrong?
 
Can someone give me their opinion on the other instructors changing their mind about the golfing machine and now saying the golfing machine has mistakes in it and is not correct? This is very disappointing for me. I have learned very much and the book has helped me tremendously. I don't claim to understand everything in the book but what I do understand has helped me.


Sorry I changed the wording, maybe this makes more sense.

KevCarter 10-22-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jerry1967 (Post 77569)
Can someone give me their opinion on the other instructors flipping and now saying the golfing machine has mistakes in it and is not correct? This is very disappointing for me. I have learned very much and the book has helped me tremendously. I don't claim to understand everything in the book but what I do understand has helped me.

Does every thing you've learned, and everything that is helping all of us automatically change to BS because somebody with a different agenda tells us his scientists disagree?

Homer Kelley's work is in the middle of a huge resurgence thanks to guys like Lynn Blake. What you are hearing is just an attempt to beat it down, because as long as it exists, the detractors can't be "the best."

I don't care who is considered "the best" I just want to work on what helps me and my students. What we learn here is the FOUNDATION for every golf swing.

Kevin

BerntR 10-22-2010 11:40 AM

I'm curious Jerry1967,

Do you have some references perhaps?

This sounds interesting. And there are perhaps more than one way to skin this cat. Plenty of flippers out on tour.

You can flip without ruining your lag pressure. It can be the same rate and timing of overtaking by the club, but with different hinge action. For instance take a very strong double action grip and the hinge action and accumulator#2 lag gets married. You can hit the ball a long way doing this but it becomes more difficult to feel the swing and control the lag.

But the TGM way seems like the best way to me. So this is not worth losing any sleep over.

Also be aware of semantic differences. Flipping doesn't always mean the same outside TGM as inside.

Daryl 10-22-2010 12:17 PM

Types of Critics?
 
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Originally Posted by jerry1967 (Post 77569)
Can someone give me their opinion on the other instructors flipping and now saying the golfing machine has mistakes in it and is not correct? This is very disappointing for me. I have learned very much and the book has helped me tremendously. I don't claim to understand everything in the book but what I do understand has helped me.

There are different kinds of critics.

12 piece bucket 10-22-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 77571)
I'm curious Jerry1967,

Do you have some references perhaps?

This sounds interesting. And there are perhaps more than one way to skin this cat. Plenty of flippers out on tour.

You can flip without ruining your lag pressure. It can be the same rate and timing of overtaking by the club, but with different hinge action. For instance take a very strong double action grip and the hinge action and accumulator#2 lag gets married. You can hit the ball a long way doing this but it becomes more difficult to feel the swing and control the lag.

But the TGM way seems like the best way to me. So this is not worth losing any sleep over.

Also be aware of semantic differences. Flipping doesn't always mean the same outside TGM as inside.

Funny . . . dude this type of "flipping" is in an entirely different context . . . as in "flipping" flop or out . . .

jerry1967 10-22-2010 01:48 PM

Sorry, I tried to make my question more clear, see first thread.

KevCarter 10-22-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BerntR (Post 77571)
I'm curious Jerry1967,

Do you have some references perhaps?

This sounds interesting. And there are perhaps more than one way to skin this cat. Plenty of flippers out on tour.

Exactly Bernt. Like Mr. Kelley said, No right, wrong, or best. We all have to find what works for us!

Kevin

JerryG 10-22-2010 05:20 PM

Quite frankly, I don't care what other instructors say or think about Homer Kelley or TGM. I've been at this for two years and it works for me. Yoda's explanations and clarifications work for me. Kev's, Daryl's, OB's, Mike's, and a whole bunch of others at this site work for me.
I will read and listen to others and keep gathering information. I am a bit of a whore that way, but my grounding is here and here is where I will continue to check in on a daily basis.

jerry1967 10-22-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KevCarter (Post 77576)
Exactly Bernt. Like Mr. Kelley said, No right, wrong, or best. We all have to find what works for us!

Kevin

I have deleted the word flipping from my question. What I meant was some teachers who used to teach the Golfing Machine are putting it down now.

Daryl 10-22-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jerry1967 (Post 77581)
I have deleted the word flipping from my question. What I meant was some teachers who used to teach the Golfing Machine are putting it down now.

They fear what they don't understand. Then condemn it to make it go away. They embrace science because they don't know what to know and they're hopeful someone will tell them how to think. It's better than living in the dark of your own misunderstanding. When all of the science is solved, they'll still need different ways to swing a club.

We'll still be here.


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