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whip 06-16-2011 01:53 PM

You are right
 
I have heard claims of tgm being incorrect but seen no proof to back them up, what exactly are these claims and what is there supposed proof? For example I read someone stating hinge action was nonsense.

faux_maestro 06-16-2011 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whip (Post 85384)
I have heard claims of junk science, but seen no proof to back them up, what exactly are these claims and what is there supposed proof? For example I read someone stating hinge action was nonsense, so let me get this straight I can move my hand through there any which way and it won't affect the golf ball? If I reverse roll vs full roll that doesn't affect the ball? Gimme a break someone enlighten me as to these claims

The thought is that wherever the face is pointing at "maximum deformation" (as opposed to separation) along with the direction of the path, it makes no difference how it got there or what happens after it leaves. The "rate of closure" means nothing, it's all in what direction the vectors (face direction, path direction) are pointing. Also, I hear that there has been "3D imaging" that shows that there is very little actual difference in the rate of closure when angled hinging vs. horizontal hinging. As far as where this is published, I'm not sure that it is.

Taffy 06-16-2011 09:11 PM

It may be junk science and hinge action may not matter but when I hinge differently I can SEE a difference in my ball flight.

chipingguru 06-16-2011 09:16 PM

hinge action is what squared club up the club in the first place.

faux_maestro 06-16-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Taffy (Post 85390)
It may be junk science and hinge action may not matter but when I hinge differently I can SEE a difference in my ball flight.

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Originally Posted by chipingguru (Post 85391)
hinge action is what squared club up the club in the first place.

I get that. I know I hit different shots when I feel the difference in hinge action.

KevCarter 06-17-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by whip (Post 85384)
I have heard claims of junk science, but seen no proof to back them up, what exactly are these claims and what is there supposed proof? For example I read someone stating hinge action was nonsense.

"Junk Science" is just negative marketing.

I've learned, finally :) , to just ignore it and follow what I believe. I like to follow many teachers and enjoy their work, but YODA speaks my language and has made me a better teacher. :salut:

Kevin

whip 06-17-2011 01:33 PM

Right kev, I kinda realized that after re reading the thread title, that is definitely not my intention. Just trying to understand what exactly they are referring to when criticizing someone for being a book literalist, what exactly are they suggesting you not take literal? I guess I'm out of the loop I have only recently become aware of these claims/comments. I suppose I ought not concern myself with what these claims are, just frustrating to read things like a player is now taking lessons from an ai and then saying They hope he isn't a book literalist. Why wouldn't u take the manual that u use to teach literal?

KevCarter 06-17-2011 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by whip (Post 85406)
Right kev, I kinda realized that after re reading the thread title, that is definitely not my intention. Just trying to understand what exactly they are referring to when criticizing someone for being a book literalist, what exactly are they suggesting you not take literal? I guess I'm out of the loop I have only recently become aware of these claims/comments. I suppose I ought not concern myself with what these claims are, just frustrating to read things like a player is now taking lessons from an ai and then saying They hope he isn't a book literalist. Why wouldn't u take the manual that u use to teach literal?

I agree, plus Homer Kelley left a lot of room to add our own flair. YODA does such a great job with this in combining other ideas like the MacDonald drills with TGM. I kind of enjoy the Book Literalist Moniker. :)

Kevin

JerryG 06-17-2011 06:47 PM

If reading and appreciating what the Yellow Book contains makes me a literalist, so be it. I am a literalist. Actually, I am a bit of a slow reader so I have to digest it all in small bites. It seems to make the digestion work better.
I see plenty of teachers around here who don't even know what the Yellow Book is and they seem to be teaching out of popular magazines. They'd be far better off to at least get ahold of the works of the earlier teachers.
As an aside, thanks to Yoda and Kev for making golf a whole lot of fun for me again.


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