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Getting a handle on Rope

This may sound like a really naive question but hey, I'm new to golf and new to TGM and experimenting to determine a path to hit, swing, or both:

Rope Handle: does this mean the entire club except for the clubhead or does it mean rope=shaft not including the grip? That is, the grip is solid and the "rope" is what connects the grip to the clubhead? Or am I holding the end of the rope with a heavy clubhead on end?

thanks in advance for any clarification!

Woody
New York, NY

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Originally Posted by woodandcoal (Post 38925)

Clubhead and shaft are like a weight on a string . . .

You can PULL a rope BUT you CAN'T PUSH it. That's the difference. Basically anyway. But if you intend to dive into the deep end of the pool.

There are CONSIDERABLE differences in the techiques of Rope Handle (Swinging) vs. Axe Handle (Hitting)

Primarily they are as follows:

Nature of Hand Acceleration
Transfer of Momentum
Inherent Hinging required
Wrist Action
Pressure Points to be Loaded

If you want to take the dive . . . I'm tredding water out there with the floatees and I'm sure many others are ready to jump in as well.

Take it as deep as you wish . . . jump when ready.

Can't push a rope- how many times have we been told that, 12 bucket. :)

A rope is pulled to whirl the end, the payload, the clubhead. It uses a throw-out CF.

An axe handle, that's is the whole wooden shaft that the ax head is attached on to- in our case the golf shaft with a clubhead is slamed. Pushed. When you clean a rug on a clothes line- you slam it with the whole stick, not just the tip.

Hitters push to hit with the whole club.
Swingers pull- to whirl the tip, the clubhead.

Pull my finger....I mean rope

Just from memory and paraphrasing, but I think Homer Kelley says 'stretching the right arm through #3 pressure point feels like pulling on both ends of a rope'

Maybe we need good extensor action, pressure points and a solid zone #2 to produce this feel.

So it gives a stretch from arms to clubhead with the feel of a tightened rope....so we can pull on it to accelerate the weight on the end of the clubshaft.

Thanks to all who replied to my question.
appreciate your time to reply

I also ran across this for the first time in the Glossary on the way home from the office:
"A rotated arm pulling steadily on a weighted line is a swinging action" [Glossary, 7th ed.]
As opposed to "steadily accelerating a hinged beam"
Line, String, Rope: all used to describe the clubshaft

But the Left Arm is also described in TGM as being rope-like is that correct?
Stretched taut (not stiff) through extensor action for both swinging (frozen rope) and hitting (beam)...

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Originally Posted by woodandcoal (Post 38984)

But the Left Arm is also described in TGM as being rope-like is that correct?
Stretched taut (not stiff) through extensor action for both swinging (frozen rope) and hitting (beam)...

Yes, this mighty "Machine" sure has a lot of rope in it. Yoda calls it a "Noodle." The Swinger's left arm is all structure and is needed to act like a string with a wrecking ball at the end of it, like a clubhead, to be thrown at a golf ball. As part of its structure it is the Left Arm Flying Wedge.

6-B-1-D. "Stretching the Left Arm through the #3 Pressure Point gives the same action as pulling on both ends of a rope; that is, it pulls both the Left Arm and the Clubshaft tautly in a straight line."

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Originally Posted by woodandcoal (Post 38984)

You are on it . . . the left arm is effectively inert for BOTH procedures. Left Arm "power" is really body power as applied through the pivot loading the #4 pressure point (where the left arm touches your left man boobie). So you TURN into that pressure point blasting the left arm into its swinging orbit. Note also that in your quote from the glossary he used the term "rotated." I think this applies to the left palm being Turned to the Plane. Here's a fantastic post for you on Swinging. You should really get into the Archives great place to bust up some fog!

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Originally Posted by Yoda

As part of the Alignment Routine of 2-J-1, the Grip should be taken at Impact Fix with the Left Wrist Flat, Level and Vertical. This also establishes the height of the Hands for Impact. Within the constraint of the Flat, Level and Vertical Left Wrist at its Impact Fix height, the #3 Accumulator Angle is established. If a greater #3 Angle is desired, the Club is positioned more under the Heel of the Hand. If less is desired, it is positioned more toward the Cup (but still under the Heel). If Zero #3 is desired, the Club is actually positioned in the Cup.

For simplicity and greater Power Control, most Short Strokes, especially Putts and Chips, should employ Zero #3. This is ideally accomplished as described above, i.e., Gripping the Club in the Cup of the Left Hand. However, at the player's option, it can also be done by Gripping the Club under the Heel of the Left Hand but with the Wrist in a Flat, Uncocked and Vertical condition at Fix.

Full Strokes, on the other hand, require the greater Power afforded by the #3 Accumulator. Interestingly, in this case -- as in so much of life -- more is not better. Absent special circumstances or psychological needs (which must be accomodated!), only a minimal amount of #3 Accumulator Angle should be used. That is because the more acute the #3 Angle, the sooner it must be Released. This creates a longer Release Interval and less than Full Power. Maximum yardage requires the use of the Snap Release and minimal #3 Accumulator. You still get the same Clubhead Travel and Rhythm (6-B-3-0) of the #3 Accumulator through Impact to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight Position), but the minimal Release Interval (2-M-2) produces a smaller Clubhead Travel Time. Hence, more yardage.

And here is one final, very important point. The #3 Accumulator is called Transfer Power for a reason: Especially in the Sequenced Release (4-D-0) of Swingers, it transfers the Power of the Released #2 Accumulator (Left Wrist Cock) into the Rolling Left Forearm and Hand. You should deliberately attempt to Feel this happening and do everything you can to encourage its Action.

Here's how to do it: From the Top, Drag Load (7-19) by Pulling the Butt End of the Club toward the Plane Line. Immediately thereafter, begin a Non-Automatic Random Sweep Release (10-24-B) -- later you can 'kick it up a notch' with the Automatic Snap Release of 10-24-E -- by Uncocking your Left Wrist strongly Downward, also toward the Plane Line. That takes only a fraction of a second, and just as soon as you Feel the strong, Downward Uncocking Motion underway, use its momentum to begin the Roll of your #3 Angle On Line through Impact. You've Launched a Three-Stage Rocket: The Drag Load established your initial Thrust; your Uncocking Left Wrist created the highest Velocity you will be able to achieve; and the #3 Accumulator picked up that Velocity and sustained it into Impact.

With Practice, this Sequenced Release blends into a single unified Motion and creates truly effortless, mystifying and almost magical Power. And when you get it right...

You're not going to believe it!

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Originally Posted by KnighT (Post 38987)

How long is the rope?

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Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 38996)

How long is the rope?

When Homer spoke of Extensor Action as:

6-B-1-D. "Stretching the Left Arm through the #3 Pressure Point gives the same action as pulling on both ends of a rope; that is, it pulls both the Left Arm and the Clubshaft tautly in a straight line."

How long of a rope did he mean? A shaft length rope? Or a small rope in the hands to pull on?