Thanks for the call Butch
 

I preface this by saying i dont know what really happened.

what i do know is that Butch Harmon......released himself from teaching John daly.

that is perfectly acceptable.........except for the way it was done.....

IN THE MEDIA..........I dont know if Butch tried to call JD or not......i'll

just say he should have tried.......

now.......i quote Butch Harmon............."John has to make golf the most important thing in his life".....RIGHT BUTCH............

Tell Tiger he has to make golf more important then his new baby...

Tell Phil,,,,,,that if you were his swing coach in 1999 during the U.s open.......and he had the lead by 1.......going to 18.........if he got a message from his wife going into labor and delivery......stay and finish the tournament.....RIGHT BUTCH

THEY are both GREAT GREAT GOLFERS........BUT FIRST THEY ARE HUSBANDS AND DADS

Butch if golf is the number one priority in your life......i sincerely hope.....you have the opportunity........TIGER AND PHIL HAVE HAD.....AND FIND.."REAL HAPPINESs"

YOUR a great swing coach, and i for one hope JD......gets it together.......but i really would have hoped you stayed with him.....not as a coach, but as a friend.......

hjack

I'm not a big fan of either of these guys and I see your point, but Butch was referencing golf vs. drinking, not golf vs. family. Maybe "the most" was a less than ideal choice of words, but I think he was trying to help JD. The rest of the story and Butch's quotes are here: http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/...721480,00.html

point taken
 

IM sure you also have a point......

words are words...............wanting it to be the most important thing in his life

your right......MOST was a bad choice of words


by the way......do you know why Tiger fired Butch????

hj

I wouldn't marry someone that would want me to leave the US Open I am leading on the 72nd hole. Thankfully I found someone that understands everything can have its priority at the right time.

John suffers from an ailment that infiltrates and plagues every niche in our society. He has both alcohol and gambling dependencies which cause his behavioral problems and which his will power cannot overcome. Teachers, Wives, Friends and associates and Fans and Press have hung in as long as they could. Like any family, they probably made herculean efforts and have been as patient and hopeful as saints until his destructiveness became theirs.

Only John can help himself. It is a sad fact that not many in his situation can overcome their dependencies soon enough to salvage careers and friendships. Only a few are lucky to beat the problem enough to build a modest life for themselves and maintain friendships with people around them. But they live with the tendencies their whole lives. For those that can overcome, things look normal from only our perspective.

John made all of this a public issue with his book. I don't think that you can point the finger at Butch. We know what's coming and if we don't play naive, we know he's going to get worse before he gets better. :(

I think that most people are like you mrodock. Things have really changed over the years. I was born in 1956. My mother phoned my father at work that she was about to deliver. He rushed home, drove her to the hospital. He met the doctor at the front door while my Mother walked into delivery. My father and the Doctor (a Friend of his) had a cigarette together at the car. When they finished, my Father drove back to work and the Doctor Promised to call him and let him know if it was a boy or girl. :laughing9 And look how normal I am. :eyes:

That is an awesome story, appreciate you sharing!

Daly deserves nothing. He has been given more chances than anyone. Who ever said he was the biggest con artist in the game was right.

I don't pity him at all. Maybe now his exemptions will run out and we will be spared this drama.

One of the best pivots ever though....it was (is) so natural and pure.

Oh, and I'm really sick of the "he is an everyman" theme. He ain't me. I am not putting myself on a pedestal, because I have made mistakes and will continue to do so. However, I do my best to learn from them

The Daly Double
 

First Butch and then he blows off Arnie's Pro-Am after receiving a sponsors exemption. Regardless of how you look at it, it is a sad story.

Yeah, that "everyman" thing always got to me. No wonder so many people think Americans are idiots if we are willing to claim him as our folk hero.