LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - VJ's Hogan Analysis Thread: VJ's Hogan Analysis View Single Post #35 06-03-2008, 02:41 AM KOC Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 273 Originally Posted by golfbulldog The more I think about the move that VJ describes and then see the first and last shots in the youtube stuff I edited...the more I see the forward move in the backswing as an inevitable motion/reaction rather than a specific move that needs to be learnt. OK, in the first shot he is REALLY going for it...one of the few pieces of Hogan footage where he nearly loses balance at the finish...so maybe discount this one... But the last footage is 1956 in Mexico...small time home movie....nothing to fear...nothing to prove....natural full swing.... The left heel only raises when he moves forward with his body maintaining the axis tilt established in the backswing. He does this without too much sag... He actually moves forward, increases hip rotation and lifts the left heel all at the same time...and it seems so natural...in VJ's book he describes a targetwards motion of the pivot much earlier in the backswing...this has to learnt...looks less natural than Hogan. OK, so i have not hit a ball in anger in 8 months...not even a range rock in 3 months... but in the mirror in my apartment I can achieve the same Hogan move by trying to do what Hogan tells us to do...it is TRYING to keep the club against the right hip (page 75 in my old Modern Fundamentals)... I do not achieve what he wants but I find that in trying to do so and also get a good right hip turn...the weight WANTS to move forwards...it is inevitable and feels natural...not a move that has to learnt. So what does it feel like...it feels like I am keeping my shin bone fixed, weight on inner right foot (Venturi had right golf shoe made to enhance this)...letting the knee rotate a little and permitting the right hip to move towards target...any comments...I was trying not to post due to work commitments but I re-read VJ's book and Modern Fundamentals...just can't keep away! Compare with Tiger's move in this video where he actually achieves what Hogan requested...right hip does not move at all in backswing... We know who has the most majors but then we also know Tiger would love to swing like Ben!! Golfbulldog, Your clip led me to make another one... Back to this topic, many members have disclosed the missing piece move from VJ’s book, here and somewhere else, we knew that VJ figured it out that Hogan’s weight was…. I think that is the “weight shift” issue and therefore hip motion, hip turn and knee action in the yellow book. I also related to what Mr. Hogan talked about in his 5-lessons book regarding Ed Stewart's left knee. I also noticed that Moe Norman said “:..I play into my leg, not on top of it.” I also noticed Jody Vasquez talked about the correct functioning of the right leg and my own take on that as the right feet and leg feel the ground and put against it for the change of direction at the “top”.…IMHO, the combination of the above is the essence of the rotary and lateral move. Sorry if you guys don't know what i am talking about...hehe….sometime it is difficult for a Chinese to say in other language precisely. __________________ If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two! KOC View Public Profile Send a private message to KOC Find all posts by KOC