LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - zero shift on the elbow plane Thread: zero shift on the elbow plane View Single Post #2 11-07-2009, 12:33 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 The Elbow Plane is very "flat", is there a physical reason why you cant raise your Right Arm/Hand? A right arm injury or something? A flatter than normal Plane Angle will see Angled Hinging Approach Horizontal as you mention but not in a clubface rotation manner or in feel. Its more like the clubface is staying perpendicular to the Plane but given the shallower angle with less layback and more clubface closing during the impact interval. But still accompanied by the "no roll" feel in the left wrist of Angled Hinging. There will be less associated Down and a more Out to the Clubheads Orbit on these angles. So your divots will be shallower as you sort of scalp the grass with a shallow Angle Of Attack. As there is more Out, ball positions back of Low Point will see an increased angle to the Angle of Approach if your hitting, more Out. Ball played back of low point will be pulled left unless you cover this Angle of Approach with more Out. Sand play will put you in Bob Vokey's "Slider" category. Ball position alters your direction more than your elevation. With your hands lower than your TSP angle an On Plane turn of the Shoulders in Startdown would see your Arms and your Hands pulled down inside the plane. I'd imagine your backswing is somewhat restricted and you tend to stop at Top which is great and has no implications to the force you can create. I'd also guess you are very rotational and fight coming inside the Plane on the Backswing. Need to concentrate on Tracing to separate the motions of the Shoulder Turn vis a vis the Right Forearm Takeaway in this regard maybe. Im guessing here though and dont wish to make any generalizations or anything. I'd also venture that you play fantastic flop shots with the blade wide open, are good out of the sand and lets see play a .......draw no fade. You're young, dashing and women swoon when you walk in a room. How am I doing? All the best Kreskin Last edited by O.B.Left : 11-07-2009 at 12:45 PM. O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left