LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Shoulder disruption problem. Thread: Shoulder disruption problem. View Single Post #15 04-21-2010, 12:26 PM O.B.Left Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,433 Originally Posted by innercityteacher I just deduced that if I push my flat left wrist along the infinite straight planeline I get the pivot and a weight shift and level handle as in a chip or pitch or bunker shot or on my way up plane for a fuller shot. Pat Gett'n close ..........but if you push the left wrist it aint an RFT is it? Its all very similar to what we do all day without thinking about it. You reach for something, your brain and your hand working together, the hand going to its target , the pivoting just happening naturally and in no way aligned to the target......cause it doenst need to be. We'd be totally spazoid if it were any other way. We dont move like anywhere else so why in golf? It a false logic, one of many. Just take your hand, your bent right hand to its destination...........Top , Right Shoulder High. Trace while your going back and down. Thats about it. The pivot will comply in a just as much as is needed manner, not too much , not too little. If you have ingrained other moves, actions , you will need to turn them off. For the Standard Shoulder Turn, the Right Shoulder can move back on nearly a horizontal plane . This was Brian Gay's swing thought when he won at Harbor Town last year. Right Shoulder flat back. Hands go up, under right elbow bending power. Just like in the McDonald drills. Their movements must be separated, which requires a loose shoulder to arm attachment. Ideally you dont even think about your shoulders, it just complies with what your brain and hand are doing. Like when you're reaching for a mug that is behind you and on a high shelf in the kitchen.. You just reach for it, no thought to pivot. Hands to Pivot!!!!!!!!! Is natural, how we do everything. Going down the Right Shoulder has a job to do as it takes the Hands downplane towards the ball on a Turned Shoulder Plane. See 2H Shoulder Motions. Standard Shoulder Turn O.B.Left View Public Profile Send a private message to O.B.Left Find all posts by O.B.Left