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If so, are you simply rolling your shoulder and keeping your arms extended. TSP just seems so steep coming down and I snap hook a lot with it. Do you have a wide stance with it?

ICT

Level wrists at Address, yes. That sounds like Pivot to Hands you are describing to me maybe ICT. Maybe I miss read it. In the Hands to Pivot startup assuming a TSP for Top you'll see the Hands take a separate Path than the Right Shoulder to Top. They both meet up together on the same Plane Angle so that the Right Shoulder can then take the Hands down that same Plane briefly in Start Down. Its this ability of the Right Shoulder to take the Hands directly down plane that makes these plane angles these TSP's so effective and uncompensated.

It is not all that Steep really . Especially if you locate ONE of the flatter Turned Shoulder Planes. (Gotta think about that a little I know. There is a range of available TSP planes that the Hands and Right Shoulder can locate , meet up on, like "Strangers in the Night" ). The one you locate with a "FLAT turn back of the Right Shoulder" in Startup is going to be amongst the flattest but its not all that flat per say either. One of Brian Gay's preferred swing thoughts apparently. The combo of Flat Back and Downplane forming the Standard Shoulder Turn , 10-13-A which Homer recommended for both of the two Basic Patterns , 12-1 and 12-2.

As an aside though some famous golfers are regarded as having flat swings and some are regarded as having upright swings......you can find in sequenced photos that they end up on or real close to a TSP Angle in Startdown. Hogan and Nicklaus for instance, although not on the same one if you know what I mean. Jack obviously had some business to do to get down there from where he was at End but... that he did. Hogan could sometimes even appear slightly under the TSP, under being far better than over Id imagine. See the photos below.....maybe the camera being 3/4 to Mr Hogan makes him seem under a TSP when he isnt? From DTL he would appear closer to it I believe. One thing is for sure he's not pointing the butt end at the ball at that moment but he will when he gets down to his lower plane.

I dunno. Yoda how big of a mess am I making here? How do you best describe the divergent vectors of the "flat back" of the Right Shoulder with the " UP" of Back , In and Up for the Hands and how it all nets out with the Hands on plane? Dang its like rubbing your stomach and patting your head at the same time. Cant be done Pivot to Hands which would see a Flat Back of the Shoulders take the Hands flat back too.......