[Yoda's Note: This is
Hungry Bear's response to my reply to his Post #1. His originating Thread points are in
Black Bold. My responses are in
Blue. His responses to my responses are in
Red. Enjoy!]
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#4 accumulator doesn’t work that way!
You lost me there, Bear. What way?
"Prying" the arm of the chest gives me a short shoulder. Pulling the left shoulder has leverage.
Basic stroke curriculum (12-5) is not for beginners.
The Basic Motion Curriculum, Stage One (12-5-1) starts with the Grip (12-5-1 #1). What could be more basic (or important)?
If I dont know how it will fit into a total motion I will have wasted my time because Everything has to fit.
Hogan’s tilted lower plane feel is real.
For the 95 percent of golfers who come 'over-the-top', I couldn't agree more! But remember, the 'Feel' is of the Inside-Out Angle of Approach (of the Clubhead) and the On Plane Thrust of the Right Forearm (and Lag Pressure), not of a shifted (to the right) Baseline of the Inclined Plane.
I believe that is the feel of the plane the hands ride on.
Hogan’s “banded” arms feel has real value.
I strongly disagree. Both the illustration and the 'feel' it creates should come with a warning label.
The 'banding' of the arms with its 'together' elbows destroys the Right Forearm Flying Wedge and its in-line support of the Left Arm Flying Wedge. This is damaging at Address -- it's okay, Tim Clark, you can stick with it!
-- but it is disastrous at the Top (fortunately, Tim reorganizes there) and fatal at Impact.
Hogan had the correct Feel -- which involves a tension in the upper arms that caused them to adhere more closely to the chest -- but he didn't tell us how he did it. Worse, he left us an illustration guaranteed to create the wrong feel!
Hogan got his Feel by using the Extensor Action (6-B-1-D) of his Right and Left Triceps to stretch his Left Arm. That action creates a stretching Tension Force -- the same that is present in the structure of suspension bridges -- in the upper arms that also causes them to move marginally closer together and thus adhere more closely to the chest.
Unfortunately, in Five Lessons, that Force (Non-Accelerating Thrust / 6-C-0 #2) was misinterpreted (and illustrated) as a Compression Force -- the exact opposite of a Tension Force -- one created by bringing the elbows 'in' toward each other. This action results in a horizontal, compressed condition and not an in-line stretched condition. Both actions create upper arm tension and upper body adherence, but whereas the Tension Force creates Power Package Alignment and Structure, the Compression Force destroys it. So, if you want to feel what Hogan felt, do what he did, not what he said he did.

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I am just going to sratch th surface. I feel this was his extensor action. Put your hand against the front edge of your desk, you can push away like a punch or you can push away by rolling your right elbow under. 2 different tricep muscles. the second provides an effortless stretch and all 4 components of extensor action. The first is a DISASTER that creates tension and does none of the extensor components.
A shift to the elbow plane is necessary to use #3-#2.
The Release of the Hand Power Accumulators (Uncock and Roll) occurs 'On Line', i.e., on the Straight Plane Line (the Third Imperative / 2-0 #B-3). The Plane Angle itself is the player's option. It is perfectly possible for the Right Forearm and Hands to remain on the Turned Shoulder Plane through Impact.
[Editors note: Apparently no response from The Bear.]
