LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Throw away / loss of lag pressure? Thread: Throw away / loss of lag pressure? View Single Post #17 08-27-2011, 12:41 AM 12 piece bucket Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 4,380 Originally Posted by jlcowper Wow... 12 Piece bucket... that was a really awesome breakdown of the areas that I need improvement. I am going to working on them right way. I was hoping you would reply because you always have very good detail and thank you for making it a little less technical for the new guy (Some funny stuff) A few questions for you: Recommendation #1,2 I will get right to work looking up the wedges and putting it on video so see what the deal is. Yep...check out the wedge stuff...if you can find the right forearm flying wedge primer around here...it's freakin golden...somebody please link this maybe? Also just noticed something ...your left hand is pretty strong...so when you arch at the top you get a double dose of shut....grip changes can mess people up...so ain't gonna necessarily prescribe a grip change...but with your grip it would help you to have some cock and bend in your left wrist...look how Freddie Couples left wrist works...don't pay attention to the club shooting across the line...don't necessarily want to do that but look at how he gets the toe to hang more "down" by having some "cup" in his left wrist note how the shaft lines up with his left arm and the face...if you get the face more open you'll be able to move more forward with your pivot and deliver the true loft of the club to the ball rather than having to work your body under the face to get it to go up Recommendation #3 - It sounds like I need to not raise my right elbow as high so that my shaft doesn't rise up the plane as much (Pic4). That way on the down stroke the shaft traces between my elbow and shoulder like in (Pic3) but other direction. This would be a flatter downswing plane more around my body. Did I state what I needed to work on correctly? Deeper would mean I need to rotate shoulders body more so that my hands / arms move more around my body? You lost me....but here's my thought...the closer your hands travel to that plane line the less shifting you gotta do to come down it...so basically...and this maybe radical for some...a backstroke something like this here....hands low and deep so your first move can be an "over and out " move with the right shoulder and club ...that's a powerful move but your club is deep and in the back stroke so the club is working out almost immediately but not over the top....with your current swing you work over early now but then you have to stop and back the shaft up to get to the inside of the ball.... If your hands are below your right shoulder and deep...you got all that shoulder support to turn directly to the ball ...work the club down out and forward immeadiately...you work that move now but the problem is your hands aren't in the right spot to make that move....with your hands up high you have to wait for them to drop down get on the shoulder line and then turn....you get 'em low and deep you can make that first powerful move you got and not be over the top because the depth of your backstroke hand path and your left arm is "under" the shoulder line so you can just blast that badboy down and work the clubhead out to the ball early from in... as opposed to have to lay it down and work from underneath late. Recommendation #4 - I am a little fuzzy on this one, but it sounds like in pics 5-7 I am rotating my body to quickly which is causing the club head to get behind and allowing my right forearm wedge to completely bend back. So I need to slow down the body rotation allow the club to work down the plane so the club stays more out in front of where my stomach is pointing. Mcdonald drill #11? Also should I feel like my right forearm is an extension of the club as it moves on the down swing (More control vs. wet noodle like I was taught elsewhere). Well with where your hands currently are at top you need your hands to not work out...they need to work down.... note how your early turn drags the over the plane...you're a good golfer so your instincts are good....I gotta get to the inside of the ball so I don't hit a wipe...but now that you have drug your hands over ...and steepened the shaft early....you gotta lay it down by raising up the handle ... the goathump does this...check out go to the top of your backswing stop and goathump...see how it lays the shaft down...what I'm saying is if you get your hands deeper...you can put that powerful move you got to work with the right handpath depth and the left arm under the shoulder line....you is a big strong man...fix your wedges...get the face more open so you got some loft ...then you can move FORWARD...if you was gonna push a car would you move your head back away from it?....you gotta get your body in position and arms and hands in a postion so you can use the powerful move going forward rather than backward. Recommendation #5 - Ok, I think you are basically saying on the backswing I am bending over and on the downswing I am standing up. I think the recommendation you are providing is to have more body tilt over thru the swing. I struggle with this one. I believe that one of the main causes for this is the difference in Setup vs. impact. At impact I have my right forearm in a straight line with the shaft, which I think is correct. When I swing I shoot my head back to ensure I have enough room for this extension. I am not sure how to get in that same alignment (forearm in-line with shaft) at address like Brian Gay does. I am 6’4” which is probably a little bit taller than him, but I can’t figure it out without having a more upright address (Maybe that is the answer?). I think this is one of the causes for why I pogo / change axis tilt. Thoughts? that standing up gets the clubhead to fall down and behind since you have drug your hands over the plane and steepened early...I'd say fix the wedges and the handpath and see what that does....your pelvis needs to be tilted down as you move forward and turn...the stand up move is great...it just has to be sequenced right and be more "down the stance line" rather than vertical to the target line...hump the goat more down your stance line....Hogan humps a goat to his left and forward...not one right in front of him... Recommendation #6 - All the books were telling me to keep my head behind the ball. So it sounds like I have completely over done it. I will think about keeping it more in front of the ball at impact. Maybe that will move it enough. The whole head thing is about gettin' the center(s) of your pivot/shoulder turn in a position to hit down and out on the ball on plane....just like if you was gonna push a refrigerator...you'd get your head up close to that thing...I'm not saying head in front...per se...just make a backswing and stop at the top feeling like you can see under the front of the ball...from their hump a goat to your left and forward...do it in the mirror see how it looks...look at Hogan... Again thank you for your feedback. If this pays off in my swing I will find a way to pay you back. I am sure you have a paypal account I don't have no paypal account fool .....I'm in the witness protection program...I do this crap for fun...you can give me some of that chicken you was eatin' sometime....if it don't work call Butch Harmon or Hank..he ain't got no job.... JC Answers above..... __________________ Aloha Mr. Hand Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 08-27-2011 at 01:35 AM. 12 piece bucket View Public Profile Send a private message to 12 piece bucket Find all posts by 12 piece bucket