Can you properly use accumulator 3 and hold the right arm flying wedge? I'm assuming it would depend on the pattern and when its okay to lose the wedge.
If the pattern called for max delay of the RAFW, can you even use #3?
-the right forearm flying wedge stays intact throughout the swing.
-there is no delay of the RFFW as it is not a power accumulator but rather a structural alignment.
I think the goal is to maintain the RFFW but as we have all seen with post impact pictures, the bend in the right wrist has disappeared.
With an aggressive acc3, throwout action of this right wrist bend is bound to happen.
I agree that the right wrist bend (wrist extension) is not an accumulator but we can see with swings like VJ and Phil that the bottom wrist bend is moving quickly towards a flat condition... meaning that the wrist is flexing towards the palm of the hand.
If the goal is to maintain a RFFW, does acc3 have to be released only to a certain degree? (maybe thats a misleading way to put it... )
I think the goal is to maintain the RFFW but as we have all seen with post impact pictures, the bend in the right wrist has disappeared.
With an aggressive acc3, throwout action of this right wrist bend is bound to happen.
I agree that the right wrist bend (wrist extension) is not an accumulator but we can see with swings like VJ and Phil that the bottom wrist bend is moving quickly towards a flat condition... meaning that the wrist is flexing towards the palm of the hand.
If the goal is to maintain a RFFW, does acc3 have to be released only to a certain degree? (maybe thats a misleading way to put it... )
I'm not sure that it's not an Accumulator. Flattening the Right Wrist at Impact meets the Definition of an Accumulator.
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Power Accumulators are out-of-line conditions of the Power Package Components. Out-of-line simply means “not in a straight line from end to end.” Releasing them to seek their in-line condition releases their stored potential. Varying the amount of out-of-line and/or the amount of muscular effort will vary the accumulation of Power that can be Released by the selected Triggering action. Accumulators are numbered in the order of their probable widest use in Stroke Type Combination's.
When the Pros Flatten the Right Wrist (Driver Tee Shots), they are timing the motion with Impact to bring about as much Clubhead Velocity as they can Muster without Over-swinging. They must "Time" the action because there is no automatic Trigger to Flatten the Right Wrist. It certainly adds Clubhead Speed (at the Expense of Clubface Control).
What we call throwaway, they call Accumulator.
I played that way on Sunday. It added 15 yards to all clubs except for wedges. I missed 16 greens. My inside Right Forearm muscles hurt like hell on Monday and Tuesday. I'm not doing that again. (Well, maybe off the Tee I only missed two Fairways)
The comparison that I would make is that provides a Three Barrel Stroke Distance. The Ball travels farther than my normal Two Barrel Stroke but no Farther than my Three Barrel Stroke (When I can do it). BUT, it's no-where as accurate as my Three Barrel Stroke. With my normal two or three barrel stroke, I would hit 16 greens; not miss them.
I don't think that you can pick up a Club, have Yoda walk you through the Alignments for a Three Barrel Stroke, and you can walk away with a Three Barrel Stroke for life. I wish it were that Simple. It takes a lot of Practice and Playing and more than most Golfers are willing or able to dedicate. It requires enormous Precision for a Three Barrel Stroke to out-perform a good Two Barrel Stroke. But, the reward is distance and control. A well performing Three Barrel Stroke is probably Scratch Golf on just about any Golf Course you can Play.
I think the goal is to maintain the RFFW but as we have all seen with post impact pictures, the bend in the right wrist has disappeared.
With an aggressive acc3, throwout action of this right wrist bend is bound to happen.
I agree that the right wrist bend (wrist extension) is not an accumulator but we can see with swings like VJ and Phil that the bottom wrist bend is moving quickly towards a flat condition... meaning that the wrist is flexing towards the palm of the hand.
If the goal is to maintain a RFFW, does acc3 have to be released only to a certain degree? (maybe thats a misleading way to put it... )
Im thinking that the unbending of the right wrist doesnt undo the RFFW. Maybe it isnt as pointy a "wedge" anymore as the right arm and club become more inline but the right forearm and club can remain on the same plane...........the plane of the right hand bend. What is lost is the LAFW if the clubhead passes the hands.
The right wrist for sure flattens and the left wrist bends during the FINISH swivel (EDIT) on full power shots as CF has it way with alignments but most really good golfers quickly re establish both of the flying wedges at FINISH (EDIT).
Phil and VJ are swingers who allow all but the #3 pressure point on their right hands to drop off the grip in an effort to avoid a right hand powered over swivel. In so doing the right hand can be seen to bend abruptly but it isnt really on the grip anyways.
The right wrist bend and unbend would be a numbered power accumulator if it wasn't at the expense of the Flat Left Wrist........ geometry over ruling physics in this case. You dont really need the power the right wrist could supply anyways. Radial that it is.
Im thinking that the unbending of the right wrist doesnt undo the RFFW. Maybe it isnt as pointy a "wedge" anymore as the right arm and club become more inline but the right forearm and club can remain on the same plane...........the plane of the right hand bend. What is lost is the LAFW if the clubhead passes the hands.
The right wrist for sure flattens and the left wrist bends during the release swivel on full power shots as CF has it way with alignments but most really good golfers quickly re establish both of the flying wedges at follow through.
Phil and VJ are swingers who allow all but the #3 pressure point on their right hands to drop off the grip in an effort to avoid a right hand powered over swivel. In so doing the right hand can be seen to bend abruptly but it isnt really on the grip anyways.
The right wrist bend and unbend would be a numbered power accumulator if it wasn't at the expense of the Flat Left Wrist........ geometry over ruling physics in this case. You dont really need the power the right wrist could supply anyways. Radial that it is.
Nice post. The RFFW does lose the amount of wedge but you're right... the right arm moves Towards an inline condition with the shaft but never gets there. I guess that's where the loss of the RFFW meets the loss of the LAFW.
I think VJ and Phil use the 3pp as a point of thrust and as a result of this final throw of the club (intentional for sure!), they lose the 1pp.
I think VJ and Phil use the 3pp as a point of thrust and as a result of this final throw of the club (intentional for sure!), they lose the 1pp.
Not sure I follow you here. Is this a right arm throw or left hand throw or? I hope you dont mean active right hand unbending as a throw, golfs deadliest move.
The RFFW does lose the amount of wedge but you're right... the right arm moves Towards an inline condition with the shaft but never gets there. I guess that's where the loss of the RFFW meets the loss of the LAFW.
Right hand unbending is really a LAFW deal, as it creates horizontal left wrist motion, arching or bending that is death to lag and compression. Normally a poor golfers way of allowing the clubhead to overtake the hands, as it must.
The solution being to roll the flat left wrist through impact.......overtaking without bending! The move that Yoda says "will take you immediately to the next level". "Why? Because thats where The Golfing Machine LIVES , thats why" My favourite Yoda quote and video of all time.
Interestingly though there are numerous pro's , teachers even that in an effort to fight the overswivel subscribe to a sort of hold off move for even the longest of shots. They are afraid of unbridled overtaking and so avoid it. If only they knew how to release instead of trying to avoid it all together! Aligned, rolling, flat left wrist release as opposed to overswivel, left wrist bending or at the opposite extreme hold offs.
So Slice with appologies to one of our fellow countrymen, the right hand doesnt stay fully bent at all times, there is overtaking, a release swivel and the grip end does point down the line in follow through, not behind you or what ever. To have it any other way would be to hold it off, good sometimes, when needed but not all the time. You cant drive it like that or hit long irons like that and play with the best. George didnt do that, Moe didnt do it either. It aint really The Canadian Move or whatever.
So Im inclined to think that the clubs full potential is being achieved with a bent right wrist, flat left wrist at impact but only if the entire power package is in the process of free but "aligned rolling" that will for full power shots see the right wrist flatten for a brief moment during the release swivel.
Can you properly use accumulator 3 and hold the right arm flying wedge? I'm assuming it would depend on the pattern and when its okay to lose the wedge.
If the pattern called for max delay of the RAFW, can you even use #3?
The structure of the flying wedges says intact. The 'power package'.
The entire power package is rotated as a unit, so done properly, you can release fully and never flatten the right wrist. That is far, far better than what the 'seems as if' is, for even pga tour players.
There is no power in flattening the right wrist. Ever. By doing so you shorten your lever from around 12-13 feet to about 4-6 feet and remove a lot of mass from your available force at impact. Speed is important, but so is mass when creating force.
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The structure of the flying wedges says intact. The 'power package'.
The entire power package is rotated as a unit, so done properly, you can release fully and never flatten the right wrist. That is far, far better than what the 'seems as if' is, for even pga tour players.
That should have been in the Book. I couldn't agree more.
Originally Posted by EdZ
There is no power in flattening the right wrist. Ever. By doing so you shorten your lever from around 12-13 feet to about 4-6 feet and remove a lot of mass from your available force at impact. Speed is important, but so is mass when creating force.
I don't Know Ed. That's my normal belief but last Sunday I was a little Surprised myself when Flattening the Right Wrist added Yardage. It's more an Uncocking and Flattening simultaneously of the Right Wrist. Ya gotta cock the Right Wrist too.
I only missed two Fairways)
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