Right forearm question

[Bagger Lance]

John,

Can't thank you enough for contributing here. This is golden.

I've heard from a lot of players outside of the LBG community that you are one of the best ballstrikers on tour.

Lynn commented to me recently that he was very impressed with your ballstriking abilities. The drill you've put up is a MUST do.

Thank You - Can't wait to get those videos up.

Bagger

[6bmike]

you can still be swinging and have right arm participation the right arm always strives to straighten.if it doesnt straight in the downstroke you would hit it dead right.if you do the drill i stated above and do it properly then you will see what i am talking about.watch th hogan home movie of mr hogan swinging in slow motion.this is what i am refering too.watching mr.hogan doing this helped me more trhan anything i have ever done.i feel like it is the best way to monitor your hands while still making a full swing.obviously it worked for the best ball striker of all time,so maybe a few of us could benefit also

Watching Hogan do the slo mo in real time is OUTSTANDING. You really get to see his Educated Hands perform magic. I watch it a lot and always discover something new.

The right forearm, the Flying Wedges, Delivery Line Prep and Roll to low point, loud impact - "these are a few of my favorte things."

I hear Coltrane in the back ground.

back to the egg for sleep. 6b

[neil]

Still at work (no book) but I believe Homer and for a fact- Lynn- speak of the right shoulder acting as a Gryo to crank up the flywheel (Right arm/right side). The right shoulder is the force that blasts the left arm off the chest. Accum #4, #2 then #3 is a pulling action of monitored by pp2.

Any thoughts folks?

Do you agree that the feet start the crank of the gyro?

[6bmike]

Do you agree that the feet start the crank of the gyro?

Lower body for sure- Feet are anchors but do have right/left, big toe to heel points of movement but the foundation of the 'machine' is the knees and hips- learn to move from here and the hands will love it.


Check out Lynn's first clip on this site:
http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/v...se_images&g=13

Lynn explains and shows both the Swinging gyro flywheel and the Hitter's backboard to push off.

A CLASSIC. Save it and watch it til it is burned on your brain- LOL

[ChrisNZ]

Went back and watched the Hogan slow mo clip again after John's post. What really struck me was how Hogan seemed (at least when demoing in slow motion) to get the hips to a slightly open position very early in the downswing and then just stop them there. The club seems to come from well above parallel with seemingly stationary hips.

Now I can relate this to momentum tranfer, but you always hear 'keep the pivot moving'', 'maintain pivot lag' and so on. For example Tomasello says once the hands get below shoulder height the left hip must keep moving - this seems almost diametrically opposed to Hogan's demo.

Can anyone clear the fog here?

Chris

[Delaware Golf]

Went back and watched the Hogan slow mo clip again after John's post. What really struck me was how Hogan seemed (at least when demoing in slow motion) to get the hips to a slightly open position very early in the downswing and then just stop them there. The club seems to come from well above parallel with seemingly stationary hips.

Now I can relate this to momentum tranfer, but you always hear 'keep the pivot moving'', 'maintain pivot lag' and so on. For example Tomasello says once the hands get below shoulder height the left hip must keep moving - this seems almost diametrically opposed to Hogan's demo.

Can anyone clear the fog here?

Chris

Hogan had problems hooking the ball...no wonder.

DG

[ChrisNZ]

Hogan had problems hooking the ball...no wonder.

DG

I wish I had Hogan's ballstriking problems! He wasn't exactly a hack!!!

[tongzilla]

Went back and watched the Hogan slow mo clip again after John's post. What really struck me was how Hogan seemed (at least when demoing in slow motion) to get the hips to a slightly open position very early in the downswing and then just stop them there. The club seems to come from well above parallel with seemingly stationary hips.

Now I can relate this to momentum tranfer, but you always hear 'keep the pivot moving'', 'maintain pivot lag' and so on. For example Tomasello says once the hands get below shoulder height the left hip must keep moving - this seems almost diametrically opposed to Hogan's demo.

Can anyone clear the fog here?

Chris

Hogan uses an "Instant Acceleration of the Hips" at Start Down (10-19-C) to power the Club via Centrifugal Force. Like you said, Pivot Lag is never Released (2-M-1). In other words, the Hips are always leading the shoulders during the Downstroke. Pivot Components (feet, knees, hips, shoulders) slow down from the ground up, but it never gets over taken (e.g. the Shoulders never overtake the Hips). By muscularly trying to spin the Hips you will disrupt the Momentum Transfer needed to induce the right amount of Throw Out Action, which will also affect your Rhythm (and therefore Hinge Action too). With all the Momentum transferred to the Club, this pulls your arms and body into the Finish position.

[ChrisNZ]

Hogan uses an "Instant Acceleration of the Hips" at Start Down (10-19-C) to power the Club via Centrifugal Force. Like you said, Pivot Lag is never Released (2-M-1). In other words, the Hips are always leading the shoulders during the Downstroke. Pivot Components (feet, knees, hips, shoulders) slow down from the ground up, but it never gets over taken (e.g. the Shoulders never overtake the Hips). By muscularly trying to spin the Hips you will disrupt the Momentum Transfer needed to induce the right amount of Throw Out Action, which will also affect your Rhythm (and therefore Hinge Action too). With all the Momentum transferred to the Club, this pulls your arms and body into the Finish position.

So the hips can be leading even if they have stopped?

[john riegger]

guys you have it all wrong thinking of your hips.monitor the hands from the top straight line delivery and the pivot will take care of itself.think of nothing but the hands and the bvody will do what it has too.you are going to have to trust me on this one.i do not even give pivot a single thought.trace that staight line and then deliver it on a staight line.that is why it is called a hand controlled pivot.monitor the hands nothing else.if you are tracing straight lines then the pvot will be in the correct sequence and position.it really is that simple.