HITTING & SWINGING STICKMAN
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03-08-2005, 03:57 PM
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Different loading procedures
Rob,
This is really cool! Good job on these.
It occurred to me that the start down position for the hitter probably assumes he is loading on the way down, which if fine. I believe YodasLuke loads that way. When Yoda is hitting, he loads at the top and looks more like the swinging Stickman at start down.
So I guess there are variations out the ying-yang that could be drawn....
I like Stickman.
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03-08-2005, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by loubert
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Here is "basic" question in this "advanced" thread: what is the origin of the different finish positions when impact looks identical?
Also, is a down-the-line verison in the works?
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Lou
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I'm guessing this has to do with angled vs horizontal hinging. Look at the post impact pics and note the difference in clubface position. The swinger is horizontal hinging, while the hitter is using angled hinging.
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03-08-2005, 08:01 PM
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This is why I have so much fun at work.
Great work, Rob.
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03-08-2005, 08:25 PM
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If you slide the web page up and down at a certain speed you can see the "motion" especially release-impact-follow through. It reminds me of Steve Elkington's Five Fundamentals photos where you can flip the pages for the swing sequence.
The red shaft really helps this. Have you experimented with different colors or shaft thickness?
Great stuff! Just curious...did you consider axis tilt in the back stroke and end/top frames? The reason I asked is I was studying the TGM Glossary and Axis Tilt defined is "Golf - To change the plane of the Shoulder Turn without moving the Head, the golfer must tilt the the Shoulder Axis by moving the Hips" I admit I have Axis Tilt fog at the present time.
Thanks much.
PChandler
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03-08-2005, 11:05 PM
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Re: Different loading procedures
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Originally Posted by Trigolt
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Rob,
This is really cool! Good job on these.
It occurred to me that the start down position for the hitter probably assumes he is loading on the way down, which if fine. I believe YodasLuke loads that way. When Yoda is hitting, he loads at the top and looks more like the swinging Stickman at start down.
So I guess there are variations out the ying-yang that could be drawn....
I like Stickman.
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Trigolt,
I appreciate your comments. In the start down I was trying to show the difference between longitudinal and radial acceleration.
Hope I did.
Hunter
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03-08-2005, 11:10 PM
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Re: Stick it Close!
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Originally Posted by drewitgolf
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Nice Job Hunter,
I agree with Annikan's assessment of the swingers start up swivel. Also, the hitter looks like it is using vertical hinging at follow through. Otherwise, top notch. Thanks!
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Drewitgolf,
It is supposed to be angled hinging, couldn't figure out how to do it any other way. Will keep trying.
Hunter
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03-08-2005, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by loubert
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Here is "basic" question in this "advanced" thread: what is the origin of the different finish positions when impact looks identical?
Also, is a down-the-line verison in the works?
Thanks,
Lou
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Lou,
I did the finish this way because the right arm is always driving, which might produce an abbreviated finish.
Down the line could be tough. I may give it a shot.
Hunter
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03-08-2005, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PChandler
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If you slide the web page up and down at a certain speed you can see the "motion" especially release-impact-follow through. It reminds me of Steve Elkington's Five Fundamentals photos where you can flip the pages for the swing sequence.
The red shaft really helps this. Have you experimented with different colors or shaft thickness?
Great stuff! Just curious...did you consider axis tilt in the back stroke and end/top frames? The reason I asked is I was studying the TGM Glossary and Axis Tilt defined is "Golf - To change the plane of the Shoulder Turn without moving the Head, the golfer must tilt the the Shoulder Axis by moving the Hips" I admit I have Axis Tilt fog at the present time.
Thanks much.
PChandler
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PChandler,
Axis tilt occurs in the start down. I apologize, the Hitter stickman has a little more axis tilt than the Swinger. I think the hitter is more correct.
Hunter
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03-10-2005, 09:16 PM
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Gregg McHatton designed a program he calls, "Blobman" which can be loaded on your pc. It is a stick figure that you can move to any position and can be viewed from 3 different angles. Check it out at www.golfresearch.com
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03-11-2005, 09:11 AM
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Very nice graphics to see clearly the differences between swinging and hitting. Thanks a bunch! 
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