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Old 11-22-2006, 12:43 PM
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Hot Rodding the TT pattern.
Is a bent left wrist at the top of the back swing detrimental to this pattern? I seem to have more clubhead speed and a tighter swing with a bent left wrist. I've only tried this in the backyard with plastic balls.
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Old 11-22-2006, 10:06 PM
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Grip Variation?
Originally Posted by ChangeMySwing
Is a bent left wrist at the top of the back swing detrimental to this pattern? I seem to have more clubhead speed and a tighter swing with a bent left wrist. I've only tried this in the backyard with plastic balls.
What Grip Type are you using?
A 10-2-D perhaps?
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Old 11-23-2006, 03:36 AM
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Hi EdZ,

Thanks you very much for the tip.

I do feel that my pivot is not correct. When we see Tomasello, and I have seen both series many times, he makes it look so simple. And I must say, he does have very good and smooth pivot action.

Another problem I have is shoulder action. At the top of the backswing, is my shoulder level to the ground or is it incline with the left shoulder slightly lower than the right. When I see the Tomasello video, his left seems to be lower, like using the rotated shoulder turn. However, if I start from Impact Fix with a tilt, it seems impossible for me to get to a rotated shoulder turn.

Am I doing something wrong?

regards,

daniel
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ

Another image that may help is to work on what feels like cross line hip motion - "like kicking a soccer ball" to use Wally Armstrong's image. Take your right hip back over your right heel, diagonally through over your left toes.
Ed, would that be a hitters hip motion cross-line? or is it still in sync with da swinger?
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Old 11-24-2006, 11:50 AM
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About the Tommy vid to Lee, there is no emphasis on the right shoulder at all in his teachings, does that mean he is neutralising-not using this accumulator?
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Old 11-24-2006, 12:03 PM
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Control it - Magic of the Right Forearm
Originally Posted by powerdraw
About the Tommy vid to Lee, there is no emphasis on the right shoulder at all in his teachings, does that mean he is neutralising-not using this accumulator?
You'll hear Tommy say the WHOLE right side goes through the shot. But Tommy controls the stroke with the Magic of the Right Forearm. BTW, the right shoulder is not an accumulator.

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Old 11-24-2006, 12:13 PM
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your right about it not being an accumulator, i meant acc4 action via right shoulder (personnal thought process) to blastoff the chest that left arm. There does not seem to be any mention about this in his description. But, thanks to you, i understand now the term 'whole right side'!
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by powerdraw
your right about it not being an accumulator, i meant acc4 action via right shoulder (personnal thought process) to blastoff the chest that left arm. There does not seem to be any mention about this in his description. But, thanks to you, i understand now the term 'whole right side'!
Watch the "Chapter 1" video "The Pivot" to hear Tomasello talking about getting "the whole right Side" into the shot.

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Old 11-25-2006, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by comdpa
What Grip Type are you using?
A 10-2-D perhaps?
I do not use a 10-2-d grip. My grip is very neutral and can be mistaken for weak.

I'm no longer experimenting with a bent left wrist; Unfortunately, clubhead speed doesn't always equal to club face control.
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Old 11-27-2006, 12:37 AM
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Hi guys,

I have been trying to learn TT's swing, apparently I come to the conclusion that there are three components in the downswing,

(a) a 'pulling the arrow from the quiver' move with the right hand - connects the right elbow to the hip and ensure the right shoulder moves downplane. Obviously, it also reverses the direction of the clubhead;

(b) a karate chop action - as shown in the video series;

(c) a swivel and hit action through the ball - controversial move but I think it helps ensures squaring the clubface.

In TT's Chapter on Power, he showed a move by swinging a stick with his right hand, I dunno if this is right arm swing or not. But what I seem to feel is that if (a) is missing, the power is all gone. So although TT describes the first downswing move as merely connecting the elbow to the hip (move 4 to 5 , I think), it is actually a pulling action with the right hand, move (a). If this first pulling action is gone, so does the power of the right hand swinging action as demostrated by TT.

Am I on the right track? Really appreciate any help to understand TT's methods.

cheers,

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