"using his left elbow as an additional hinge a power increase of up to 50% is theoretically possible." 50%- Rubbish. And the Sweetspot will never see the clubface as often.
Take Vardon out of that field jacket and he would have a straighter arm then we think.
Sorry for helping the members of this forum. If you only knew how many I have helped and the time I have spent helping them.
Help away. TT is okay in my book. Great way to learn some of the things about TGM. But it seems you are against any questions. That is wrong. My guess is the answer will not be what you want it to be. No big deal. As I said- nice stroke pattern.
I have in my mind a question for a long time regarding the RFT. In "The Address Routine video", Yoda and Jeff Hull and Ted all together talking about the takeaway. It is easy to understand that Hitter pick the thing up and drive it down...for swinger, hands are leading both ways... should we pick the rope handle? Or do RFT compatible to swinging procedure?
Frankly speaking, I personally adopt the RFT for hitting with very good result and just want to clear my fog.
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
I have in my mind a question for a long time regarding the RFT. In "The Address Routine video", Yoda and Jeff Hull and Ted all together talking about the takeaway. It is easy to understand that Hitter pick the thing up and drive it down...for swinger, hands are leading both ways... should we pick the rope handle? Or do RFT compatible to swinging procedure?
This whole idea of the Right Arm Takeaway is so much simpler than most people want to make it.
As the Body Turns (and thus provides the circular motion necessary for the Stroke), both Hitters and Swingers use an active Right Arm and Elbow to lift the Left Arm and Club to the Top. Since one arm or the other (or both) must ultimately lift the Club -- really, how else will you get it off the ground? -- then the only alternative to Right Arm Lift is Left Arm Lift (or some combination of the two). The motion is not at all complicated. It is the same used when you wind up to throw a ball (only the plane of motion is different).
But getting the Club off the ground is only half the story. You must also guide it in its precise On Plane Path, and here the Right Arm reigns supreme. As the player lifts the Club, he simultaneously uses the Right Forearm and Clubshaft (ideally the Forearm's In-Line Extension) to direct the Sweetspot Up Plane. As the Elbow Action lifts, the Right Forearm guides. What could be simpler?
Sure, you can lift the Club with your Left Arm -- if you are strong enough -- but since the Left Arm points below Plane, its guidance function is suspect. One thing is for sure: You cannot lift the Club with the Body. Unaided by the Arm's Lift, the Turning Body will simply drag the Club back along the ground and sharply to the inside. So, sooner or later, the Arms must lift. 'Sooner' puts the Club On Plane. 'Later' puts it Under Plane.
Now, directly to your question and the manner in which the Right Arm Takeaway differs between Hitters and Swingers:
The Hitter must set up a Carry Back Motion (of the entire Left Arm-Clubshaft unit) that Loads the Right Elbow (for Muscular Drive-Out Action). In contrast, the Swinger must set up a Swing Back Motion (of the Club itself) that Loads the Left Wrist (for Centrifugal Throw-Out Action). Hence, the Swinger will sense and visually exhibit more of a Drag Back than will the Hitter.
As a final appeal to those who would understand the nature of Right Arm Participation in the Backstroke, let me close with a real-life story. In 1972, then 42-year-old Gene "The Machine" Littler was diagnosed with cancer of the lymph system. The recommended surgical procedure to remove the cancerous lymph node in the upper left chest was radical: Node, glands (also in the upper left arm) and surrounding muscle would be cut out. Told he must choose between what would be left of his professional golf career and saving his life, Gene chose life, and the surgery was done.
But this story has a happy ending. The following year, while still in recovery and before he could lift his left arm above his waist, he won again on the PGA TOUR. On the Backstroke, his strong Right Arm swung the Club Up, Back and In -- On Plane. From the Top, his wonderful Pivot, specifically the Right Shoulder (and not his disabled Left Shoulder), drove his virtually useless Left Arm into Release. Centrifugal Force powered his Swinging Club, and his Right Forearm provided its On Plane guidance through Impact.
Asked about the victory in spite of his disability, Gene said simply:
"I never knew the right arm was so important."
He would go on to win four more PGA TOUR events, earn a berth on the 1975 Ryder Cup team and, in the sunset of his career, win eight times on the Senior Tour.
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Can you tell us more on this one...hitting ...swinging...what feeling in the right elbow
I reckon it sort of depends . . .
The Hitter is Loading the Right Elbow so he is very much aware and dependent upon the sensations of the Elbow cocking, raising the Primary Lever Assembly, and being Loaded to drive the Primary Lever Assembly into Impact via the Right Forearm driving the heel of the Right Hand into the Left Thumb.
The Swinger on the other hand has more going on with the whole Swiveling thing. But the Swinger still has to get UP to have a three dimensional backstroke . . . not just back and in.
I am battling a Shoulder Turn Takeaway right now . . . I thought I was getting the club out of the under-plane condition that the Shoulder Turn Takeeaway leads to . . . but video disproved it. I get the club under-plane and behind me. Then the up comes too late and to combat the "behind me" feeling (ok ok stop it) I get it across the line ='s good bye Flying Wedge Alignments via a Rolled Right Wrist at the Top. To get the UP part I had to FOCUS my feel on the Elbow itself raising the left arm.
Captain Collards gave us a fantastic drill for this . . . grip your left arm at the wrist with your right hand . .. then just raise it up. I think it's actually demonstrated in the Hull-Fort-Blake video thingies.
If you ain't got enough up . . . focus on the message of your right elbow.
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 02-25-2007 at 09:50 PM.
Thanks Yoda I got it. I remember a GSED on other side said that the backswing is similar to load a fishing rod. I think that is not by STT! Also, as you mentioned throwing a ball, my mind suddenly came up with Hammer Throwing.
I think that is a good example of arms (esp. the right arm) and body to make the hammer in motion.
RFT = Reduce Faulty Takeaway; Right to the Frame of golf Teaching; Revolutionary From Tee-to green...
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
This whole idea of the Right Arm Takeaway is so much simpler than most people want to make it.
I remember a few years back how tough it was for many of us to perform something so simple. Clapping, Fanning, Lifting, Pick up- it was so foreign. The computer took some time to re-program. But it did.
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
I got it. I remember a GSED on other side said that the backswing is similar to load a fishing rod. I think that is not by STT! Also, as you mentioned throwing a ball, my mind suddenly came up with Hammer Throwing. 
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