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Old 03-12-2008, 04:46 PM
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You really want me to put THAT pic up???? If you say so . . . . .
NO NO NO!!!!!!!!! The Hogan one!
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).

The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 03-12-2008, 10:06 PM
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NO NO NO!!!!!!!!! The Hogan one!
Here you are sir . .



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Old 03-12-2008, 10:48 PM
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This is the one I meant Bucket.



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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).

The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:04 AM
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:57 AM
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Love that photo Mrodock

What is on display here?

I see a fully extended right arm with a still bent right wrist.

An on plane right shoulder. Swinging left?

Anyone else have any insights?
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Love that photo Mrodock

What is on display here?

I see a fully extended right arm with a still bent right wrist.

An on plane right shoulder. Swinging left?

Anyone else have any insights?

Handle down . . . Left Wrist not fully uncocked . . . Still in his Axis Tilt . . . right heel still down . . . right knee still relatively "in line" with the left . . . Hip Slant . . .

Is he swinging left or simply swinging on plane?

What about the face? What about it's relationship to the plane and the #3 accumulator associated with that plane? Is it Horizontal Hinging or is it not?
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:45 PM
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Looks like an angle hinge (no-roll) and a delayed swivel. I agree with Bucket, he's not really swinging left, he's just swinging on plane after impact. I call it replaning the club. Hogan and Snead were two of the best in this respect. Chuck Cook has an interesting article on this topic in this month's Golf Digest (Freddie is on the cover).
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 03-13-2008, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Handle down . . . Left Wrist not fully uncocked . . . Still in his Axis Tilt . . . right heel still down . . . right knee still relatively "in line" with the left . . . Hip Slant . . .

Is he swinging left or simply swinging on plane?

What about the face? What about it's relationship to the plane and the #3 accumulator associated with that plane? Is it Horizontal Hinging or is it not?

This is the key thing... "Swinging left" is a feel at best .... lets call it what it is "swinging on plane"!!!

Agree with you Bucket....
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:49 PM
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Here you are sir . .




12,

This may not have been the pic Mrodock wanted posted, but these 2 pics take on a whole new dimension for me.

After many years of TGM book study I was finally able to get a lesson from an AI this week (and a really good one). As one who has always set up with "low hands" (and a high right forearm) and who has always battled with an under-plane downswing with too much #3 acc..... these 2 pics reflect, precisely, the "goal" I now have for my address and impact right forearm positions.

You've all seen/heard Yoda preach about getting the RF on plane at address and at impact.... I can tell you I have a new found appreciation for that geometry.

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