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Old 05-30-2010, 11:57 AM
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Swivel sequence
This is TGM not tips- my opinion only- I come to TGM for consistent system laid on foundation. Tips have screwed me and many others up forever.
I am mainly the three small slices of the pie- and I do have criticism but it is, by far, the smallest piece of the pie and I can’t remember what it contains now.
OK, I need to elaborate on Huh? (Call it therapy, rudeness, ignorance or just plain FUN to do).
I just found a TGM criticism. 2-G.

"..2-G HINGE MOTION Thus, though some procedures may cause the Clubface to “Close” in relation to the Plane Line, none will be an actual “Roll” of the Hands. See 2-C and 6-B-3-0. There is, however, the “Release Roll” (Swivel) which is a true rotation of the Hands into Impact alignments by Accumulator #3 with (10-18-A only)..."

I think should read…alignments.[PERIOD] (Not by accumulator #3)
Working backwards.
Impact alignment- Horizontal hinge-left wedge/wrist-flat, level (almost) and vertical
RFFW on plane
#3 pp on plane down out and forward sensing clubface too inside quadrant ball
So where did the swivel happen?
The swivel gets me from left wedge SORT- OF on plane to vertical to plane i.e. Swivel “presents” #3
The swivel starts during #2 release.
Let me put some numbers behind this.
The swing- Left full cocked-#2 release on plane starts very fast- rffw under plane- pp#3 is on top shaft but on plane. Right forearm starts fanning. At ~ 35% #2 release left wrist swivel, #3 rotates to behind shaft rf arrives on plane #2 continues release but slower . Left wedge/hand now vertical. #3 accumulator is max at this point and HOLDS THE CLUBFACE VERTICAL. Down is still needed-so- #2 continues to release, let’s say to 47% at impact (just short of level left wrist) At low point. 50% #2 release, #3 pp directing traffic, #3 acc. Holding face alignment. We are heading for follow through. Once there both arms straight, #2 gets to zero, no more #3 accumulator and now everything just wants to swivel around and stay on plane because we planned for that way back at the top.
I think the follow through swivel can be seen but #2, swivel,#3 may only be 3-4 inches of hand movement to 2-4 feet of club head movement.
Got to have a good aiming point where rhythm is king AND hit hard with the things that transfer energy

I just like the base and the cello and the viola in this clip but the picture makes the point.



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Old 05-30-2010, 01:40 PM
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HungryBear,

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#3 may only be 3-4 inches of hand movement to 2-4 feet of club head movement.
#3 Accumulator Roll is 18" of Hand Travel, and 3 feet of Clubhead Travel.

Next week I'm giving my second TGM Tip of the Week. It's all about Hinge motions and Uncocking and Rolling on the same Plane Line. It is really a very simple procedure but I'm afraid that it has been misunderstood by ALMOST everyone for a very long time. When you see the Pictures you'll be shocked.

Tiger is on the Elbow Plane and he Rolls his Hands into Impact. So his Roll and Release Swivel occur using the same Rolling Hands Motion. He does Hinge and he does Finish Swivel.

The Release Swivel can occur at the beginning of the Release (By arching your left wrist) or before Impact by Actually Rolling your Hands at the End of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge Roll. Either way, they are distinct and separate procedures.

I must WARN you at this point. Without Extensor Action, Rolling and Swiveling cannot be a separate Procedure. Furthermore, and this will anger some people, You cannot use Extensor Action on the Elbow Plane. Maybe a Hitter can, I don't know, but I do know, positively without a doubt, that Extensor Action cannot be active/used if you swing on an elbow Plane.

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Old 05-30-2010, 02:04 PM
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Hey Boogernose.

Im always shocked by your pictures..........and will it be TGM or DGM (Daryls Golf Machine) next week? Cant wait!


"Almost everyone" ...... thats killing me........are you including Homer?

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Old 05-30-2010, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
"Almost everyone" ...... thats killing me........are you including Homer?
Hey smartypants club champion, just wait and see. This will be a milestone moment.
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Old 05-30-2010, 02:21 PM
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I cant wait now.........how bout a sneak peak? A trailer? Preview? OK Ill wait....
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Old 05-30-2010, 04:45 PM
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Swivel is not roll
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HungryBear,



#3 Accumulator Roll is 18" of Hand Travel, and 3 feet of Clubhead Travel.

Tiger is on the Elbow Plane and he Rolls his Hands into Impact. So his Roll and Release Swivel occur using the same Rolling Hands Motion. He does Hinge and he does Finish Swivel.

The Release Swivel can occur at the beginning of the Release (By arching your left wrist) or before Impact by Actually Rolling your Hands at the End of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge Roll. Either way, they are distinct and separate procedures.

I must WARN you at this point. Without Extensor Action, Rolling and Swiveling cannot be a separate Procedure. Furthermore, and this will anger some people, You cannot use Extensor Action on the Elbow Plane. Maybe a Hitter can, I don't know, but I do know, positively without a doubt, that Extensor Action cannot be active/used if you swing on an elbow Plane.
There can't be a #3 accumulator roll before the swivel and swingers using a sequenced release use #2 accumulator release to obtain velocity ( the swivel is during #2 and before #3 release because #3 accumulator can only roll off plane before swivel ).
I agree that the #3 roll is 18-30 inches with a club head travel of 3-7 feet but before impact the hand distance is short and #3 velocity is max.- and greatest velocity.
I see a sequenced release by TW. On plane #2release, swivel to vertical, #3 roll (horizontal hinge ) to impact.
swivel does nothing but reposition the mechanism. If there is one thing TW does that is wrong it may be that he gets down to the elbow so the release sequence disturbes the rhythm and he then needs to get the hands around at a roll rate different than the turn rate. But not bad in that clip I din't think

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Old 05-31-2010, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post

I must WARN you at this point. Without Extensor Action, Rolling and Swiveling cannot be a separate Procedure. Furthermore, and this will anger some people, You cannot use Extensor Action on the Elbow Plane. Maybe a Hitter can, I don't know, but I do know, positively without a doubt, that Extensor Action cannot be active/used if you swing on an elbow Plane.
I think I get it now. Extensor action is kind of like doing push-up's. Everything is good until I position my hands below my elbows. Then I can't push-up because I just tip over onto my nose. I now am glad I quit golf three weeks ago but that is a whole new story.

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Old 05-31-2010, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by HungryBear View Post
I think I get it now. Extensor action is kind of like doing push-up's. Everything is good until I position my hands below my elbows. Then I can't push-up because I just tip over onto my nose. I now am glad I quit golf three weeks ago but that is a whole new story.

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No One Quits Golf. It can't be done. Once bitten, you're in for life.

Maybe Yoda can explain it, but I can't. It Stifles Throwout and Alignments are everything but Aligned. The Clubhead loses it's two dimensional path. The Clubhead crashes over the ball. I think your analogy is pretty close for me too.
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Old 05-31-2010, 01:55 PM
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No One Quits Golf. It can't be done. Once bitten, you're in for life.
I am different. I'll just give you a small piece of the story. I have had a commitment for the 18th of june 2010 for over a year now. I will be in Monterey CA from the 15th to the morning of the 19th. I will not even be concerned that the open is 2 miles away and by the evening of the 19th I will be in San Diego (Del Mar) within 1/2 mile of torrey pines. But I wont even visit it except the family may want to go out on the glider field to help me find my lost jigger of salt. I have had numerous periods in my life where I have not been on a course in years.

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Old 05-31-2010, 07:19 PM
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I wish you the best of luck HungryBear in whatever it is that you're going to do.
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