here is my opinion to my question in relation to your replies ...
1) airair - no, I do not agree with you, I believe that all golf strokes have its own total motion
fyi page 221 of 7th edition - 12-0 says: Chips and Putts are merely miniaturized. And each must have its own Total Motion
2) Daryl - It is interesting point of comparing Curriculum motions to Zones, but ie #14 is first mention in acquired motion, I think you are
not true.
3) Collin Neeman videos - good videos, but there are many errors in his swing such as practice
swing broken left wrist, for acquired motion much #2 accumulator without arms moving up, for full swing poor balance (my observation) and
there is no exact description how to repair or develop correctly, I cant see/hear it
It would be better to see PGA tour TGM videos!
4) O.B.Left is closer to my view on motion curriculum
I think basic motion curriculum (with all 3 stages) is conception/written instruction for learning full golf shot.
To learn full golf shot you must go through all 3 stages to learn all TGM aspects of full golf shot, master stage one go to second and then third. In 12-5 curriculum are some prefixed component variations, because author supposes this is the best way to learn golf shot.
My deduction is this ... the golfer must prepare his/her own curriculum (or take another one from instructor) for other golf shots such as chip.
My idea is ... I will take all components from the basic motion from 12-5-1 (change what I need and practice), then add my stage2 from 12-5-2 and change for my chip shot, from stage2 need for example Weight Shift for my chip curriculum, then practice, then add my stage3 for example elbow position to my chip shot Total Motion.
here is my opinion to my question in relation to your replies ...
1) airair - no, I do not agree with you, I believe that all golf strokes have its own total motion
fyi page 221 of 7th edition - 12-0 says: Chips and Putts are merely miniaturized. And each must have its own Total Motion
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I don't want to impose my thoughts on you - I'm toiling with this to find out what to think. That each shot has its own total motion I find very confusing. In that case one could say that the total motion of the basic motion is 2-3 feet back and 2-3 feet thru. I would rather say that it's the normal range of the basic motion - about a quarter swing. When we get up to a half swing with the arms parallel to the ground we have a required motion and over that again the total motion. Does it really make sense to talk about the total motion of the total motion?
I hope somebody can comment on this to clear this up in case I have it all wrong.
Those steps must only shorten, not change (6-B-3-0). Keep ALL Full and Short Stroke alignments and paths identical. Chips and Putts are merely miniaturized – not altered. And each must have its own Total Motion (3-0). Study 2-M-2, 2-N.
"The Motion makes the shot" is one of HK's sayings. When HK claims that "each (shot) must have its own Total Motion", he is saying that each of the 24 components must be dealt with by either using or zeroing out one variation in each component. The word "Total" means a 'complete' "Stroke Pattern". I offer the following quotes to support the definition of "Total"
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7-0 GENERAL Basic Stroke Component classifications are based on the fact that there are twenty-four actions in the Golf Stroke that can be properly executed in more than one way, therefore twenty-fore Stroke Components must have groups of Variations for each of these basic functions.
Every Stroke has these twenty-four Basic (constants – samenesses) but few Strokes have the same Variations (variables – differences).
Curriculum Intent:
I believe that the intent of the Curriculum, is to teach each of the three Zones. First learn "Hands", then, when adding the "Arms", it will become clear whether the "Arms" are affecting the proper execution of the Hands. Then add the "Pivot" and it will become clear whether the Pivot is affecting Zone 1 and 2.
Please read the following quotes from the 6th and 7th Editions. (Bold by Daryl)
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But Zone #1 can actually host the cause behind Zone #2 aberrations.
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. Every Stroke Component should be tracked through all Twelve Sections – independently – to give it its full recognition, application and continuity. And also through the Three Zones (Chapter 9) to define relationships. And study 12-3-0
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The Three Zones are a natural division of the action. Their identities must be maintained in teaching, practice and playing. And unless developed in sequence, a very weak “compensated” game is inevitable. Consider Putting. Zero Pivot (10-12-D) IS Body Control (Zone #1). One Accumulator (10-11-A) IS Club Control (Zone #2). Any Hinge Action (10-10) IS Ball Control (Zone #3). And Educated Hands (5-0) ARE exactly as mandatory here as with any other Pattern.
...and in the 7th Edition (Lord forgive me)
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9-0: The individual Components in the Three Zones are governed by Stroke Pattern regardless of Zones, which only maintain and coordinate the individuality as well as the interaction of these Components, as prepackaged cargo to assure that malfunction in other Zones stay in their own package and not foist unnoticed Compensations on each other to plague the Machine.
airair: I don't want to impose my thoughts on you - I'm toiling with this to find out what to think. That each shot has its own total motion I find very confusing.
Each Stroke should have a "Total" Motion insofar that each Stroke is comprised of 24 components.
airair: In that case one could say that the total motion of the basic motion is 2-3 feet back and 2-3 feet thru. I would rather say that it's the normal range of the basic motion - about a quarter swing.
"Total Motion" does not mean Length of Stroke. "Basic Motion" uses 24 Components. The Hands move only far enough in "Basic Motion" for one to assemble the "Primary Lever" (and Flying Wedges). From "Standard Address", the Hands move about 9" to the Right.
airair: When we get up to a half swing with the arms parallel to the ground we have a required motion and over that again the total motion.
"Acquired Motion" has the Right forearm not to exceed parallel-to-the-ground. Why is it called "Acquired"? Because you "Acquire" the "Secondary Lever": Wrist Cock---Hitters can "Right Triceps Thrust and Swingers can use CF to use the Secondary Lever.
So----"Basic Motion" is "Primary Lever" and "Acquired Motion" is "Secondary Lever".
airair: Does it really make sense to talk about the total motion of the total motion?
The word "Total" in "Total Motion: Stage Three, Curriculum" is the use of All Three Zones and 12 Sections.
"The Motion makes the shot" is one of HK's sayings. When HK claims that "each (shot) must have its own Total Motion", he is saying that each of the 24 components must be dealt with by either using or zeroing out one variation in each component. The word "Total" means a 'complete' "Stroke Pattern". I offer the following quotes to support the definition of "Total"
Curriculum Intent:
I believe that the intent of the Curriculum, is to teach each of the three Zones. First learn "Hands", then, when adding the "Arms", it will become clear whether the "Arms" are affecting the proper execution of the Hands. Then add the "Pivot" and it will become clear whether the Pivot is affecting Zone 1 and 2.
Please read the following quotes from the 6th and 7th Editions. (Bold by Daryl)
...and in the 7th Edition (Lord forgive me)
I feel as if all three zones really do offer insights to the Hands, primarily. But. like mastering musical scales, each insight gives you appreciation for the other notes and vibrations.
Having allowed myself a full Pivot, now, and after watching "The Address Routine" premium videos for the 20 th time or so, I realized that Ted and Yoda's hand positions were really informed by their Impact Fix rehearsal. But Jeff made a comment that he and Ted are feeling the same things.
I started seeing RFT and my right hand on plane for swinging and hitting. I remembered one of the instructors, Jeff, I think, talking about trusting his right hand to square up by itself, meaning it was open to the BLP until it did square up by itself.
When I marched back a little to form my Impact Fix tonight, I felt that excellent weight on # 3 PP. I remembered the heavy mop. I froze my right hand on plane as I waggled with hitting and swinging motion. I "Put my mind in my hands." I held the palm of my right hand facing the sky as I did RFT over and over. I could feel the lag of the weight of my hand (in # 3 PP) in both hitting and swinging with my right palm on plane! Awesome!
Full marching Pivot=swing and # 3 PP was underneath the club. Acquired Motion
hit with right palm up and the transition pressure against # 3 was caught and then I carried it with my right palm up, so far down it was ridiculous! JerryG called me last night and described this to me and I figured it out, today.
And then the hinges made a lot more sense because of the Pivot. Angled Hinge on a hit with my 9.5 degree Adams driver. The ball just kept going up! I thought I was mistakenly rolling to a vertical hinge! It was just my right hand on plane through the shot carrying #3 PP lag well past impact. The Horizontal Hinge rolled all by itself during the swing as I tried like hell to hold my right palm up past my front foot. The Pivot made it very doable! The ball didn't seem to mind the wind blowing at us on the range.
As I got comfortable with the feeling of the right palm up (on plane), all my strokes seemed shorter with more bite and explosion of the ball off the club face. I realized that my Power Package was truly stationary for the first time as the Pivot just delivered a beating to the range balls.
I kept looking!!! I had bumbled on a heavy Extensor Action in earlier rounds that allowed me to shoot some low 80's. But the heavy EA, would tighten up my driver and shoulder on the downswing with tension causing some nasty snaps. The heavier EA has something in common with the right palm facing the sky at Impact Fix;it preserves that palm position!
Severe Bent Right Wrist helped me shoot an 81. Uhmm, right palm facing the sky until my right arm ran out of stretch! Now, with the Pivot, Right palm to sky=BRW= # 3PP lag carry = to finish =never ending lag.
With wedges, 9 iron, 4 iron, hybrid, driver (and I'll try the putter, too), the ball jumped off the clubs, tonight. My Pivot showed me my right palm on plane, lag, # 3 PP and my mind in my hands!
I just have to remember not to hit my driver, tomorrow on all but are longest holes. The ground is so hard. I also have to remember that the ball lands more softly on the greens, not the fairway!
Thanks fellas!
YBGF
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Thanks Daryl and innercityteacher I feel like a pupil who has difficulties to understand what the teachers are talking about. I'll read it several times and see if I get it... before Christmas.
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