Air-time

[BerntR]

I find it much easier to achieve a good rhythm on a lower plane. In the short game I sometimes go even lower. Very un-TGM like but it works pretty well for me.

It certainly doesn't hurt to try the elbow plane.

[tim chapman]

That's probably it. I was also thinking it would be a way to go to make it easier to the rid of a OTT move?

yes Air i think that is a valid obsevation, i would say it is harder to go OTT from a flatter plane - there is probably a good thread relating to that somewhere on LBG - where you would get better input than mine

[airair]

[tim chapman]

interesting vid Air, espec the bit about kids taking the club inside because it is heavy for them & then looping towards the plane line but still finding an attack/approach angle that brings them inside the ball not OTT

you might search for attack angle or approach angle threads & see where it leads ?

i may do the same later & we can compare notes

[Daryl]

Wow, I'm speechless.

[airair]

Wow, I'm speechless.

Why is that?

[airair]

interesting vid Air, espec the bit about kids taking the club inside because it is heavy for them & then looping towards the plane line but still finding an attack/approach angle that brings them inside the ball not OTT

you might search for attack angle or approach angle threads & see where it leads ?

i may do the same later & we can compare notes

I'll have to do the first or the last of these 3 - don't think I can do the one plane swing..?

[tim chapman]

Why is that?

i'd guess because 'slot swing' is major position golf rather than alignment golf

Daryl's right of course

though the bit about why kids do what they do was interesting to me at least

[airair]

i'd guess because 'slot swing' is major position golf rather than alignment golf

Daryl's right of course

though the bit about why kids do what they do was interesting to me at least

I thought McLean demonstrated the movement down to the ball - just as much as a postion - and he showed 3 different ways to do it. No harm in that?

[tim chapman]

I thought McLean demonstrated the movement down to the ball - just as much as a postion - and he showed 3 different ways to do it. No harm in that?

position golf is usually vague & TGM is precise, position golf just tends to say get here here & here & everything will be alright but there is usually no depth to the instruction & in my experience it doesn't help a great deal - HK said something to the tune of ''by making the golf swing simple you don't make it easier you just make it incomplete & it is easier to understand something complex than something mysterious & incomplete''

i believe the answer to not coming OTT probably lies in improved zone 1 (body) movements

Daryl or someone else might clarify, expand or (more likely) correct (my understanding is very limited as you know)