By zeroing out the pivot, you control your backswing with RFT? A "slight" backswing would allow you simply drive your shoulders and arm according to whatever your desired hinges? On a full-blooded drive, do you carry your shoulder all the way back?
Smooth strike right? Do you simply roll the back shoulder and hit your aimpoint with your wedges (based on which hinge/ball shape)? As long as you know your aimpoint, timing almost doesn't matter?
If I imagine pushing my back/right foot against a wall, the back shoulder rotates and right arm thrusts, like Tommy Armour's driving the back leg!
Lastly,Jeff, how many different types of cuisines can one find in Center City Toronto? Is the Senator Steakhouse still operating?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Pat
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
Not sure what you mean by flat?
With your pivot zeroed and right arm alone out in front of you its a combo of horizontal arm motion (fanning) and vertical lifting via the (bending) the right elbow. The horizontal and vertical , the fanning and bending blend together they do not happen sequentially.
Another way of seeing it is: without a club go to Top, Right Shoulder High with the Right Hand only. Now keeping your Right Hands relationship to the Shoulder in tact, return your shoulders to their address position. Your right hand is now somewhere over your right knee or there abouts. You have now isolated the true movement required of the Right Arm in the Backswing. Not as big a motion as you would first imagine.
A good deal of the Back of Back, Up and In, Three Dimensional Takeaway, is provided by the turning Pivot. You can also now see the Fanning and Bending required by the right arm in isolation. Its a horizontal and a vertical which when blended can become a diagonal, assuming you start the Pick Up , Right Elbow bending in Startup.
As a side bar, Yoda showed me the two middle fingers of the right hand, the ones that snug up the #1 pp , which tugs the left arm, Extensor Action.......these two fingers are now the main actors in my Right Forearm Takeaway. They can take care of EA and the RFT, fanning, bending.
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Last edited by innercityteacher : 04-19-2010 at 11:34 PM.
By zeroing out the pivot, you control your backswing with RFT?
Lastly,Jeff, how many different types of cuisines can one find in Center City Toronto? Is the Senator Steakhouse still operating?
Inquiring minds want to know!
Pat
The zeroing out of the Shoulder turn was only to isolate the right arm's motion during the takeaway in a full swing. A real golf swing will need the pivot to provide the IN of Back , Up and In . Just realized I made a typo in my post to you. I said BACK when I meant IN before sorry. The pivot provides the IN. Ill correct it.
The Senator is still there but the jazz bar up stairs is long gone sadly. It was one of the nicest rooms in the city.
I knew what you meant. It is very cool to see the simplicity of the RFT. You helped me understand why I always doublecock the wrists. I simply had no idea of the pivot's necessity and power. I did RFT without the pivot!
I just deduced that if I push my flat left wrist along the infinite straight planeline I get the pivot and a weight shift and level handle as in a chip or pitch or bunker shot or on my way up plane for a fuller shot. I guess Yoda keeps weight forward to give himself a better sense of shoulder control for whichever hinge he is employing. It seems so logical and simple and DO-ABLE. God bless America, Canada, ok, everyone, and Tiny Tim!
Pat
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
The zeroing out of the Shoulder turn was only to isolate the right arm's motion during the takeaway in a full swing. A real golf swing will need the pivot to provide the IN of Back , Up and In . Just realized I made a typo in my post to you. I said BACK when I meant IN before sorry. The pivot provides the IN. Ill correct it.
The Senator is still there but the jazz bar up stairs is long gone sadly. It was one of the nicest rooms in the city.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
I just deduced that if I push my flat left wrist along the infinite straight planeline I get the pivot and a weight shift and level handle as in a chip or pitch or bunker shot or on my way up plane for a fuller shot.
Pat
Gett'n close ..........but if you push the left wrist it aint an RFT is it? Its all very similar to what we do all day without thinking about it. You reach for something, your brain and your hand working together, the hand going to its target , the pivoting just happening naturally and in no way aligned to the target......cause it doenst need to be. We'd be totally spazoid if it were any other way. We dont move like anywhere else so why in golf? It a false logic, one of many. Just take your hand, your bent right hand to its destination...........Top , Right Shoulder High. Trace while your going back and down. Thats about it. The pivot will comply in a just as much as is needed manner, not too much , not too little.
If you have ingrained other moves, actions , you will need to turn them off.
For the Standard Shoulder Turn, the Right Shoulder can move back on nearly a horizontal plane . This was Brian Gay's swing thought when he won at Harbor Town last year. Right Shoulder flat back. Hands go up, under right elbow bending power. Just like in the McDonald drills. Their movements must be separated, which requires a loose shoulder to arm attachment.
Ideally you dont even think about your shoulders, it just complies with what your brain and hand are doing. Like when you're reaching for a mug that is behind you and on a high shelf in the kitchen.. You just reach for it, no thought to pivot. Hands to Pivot!!!!!!!!! Is natural, how we do everything.
Going down the Right Shoulder has a job to do as it takes the Hands downplane towards the ball on a Turned Shoulder Plane. See 2H Shoulder Motions. Standard Shoulder Turn
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