"Third Rail" topics

[brianmontgomery2000]

The true idea of "connected" is Lag and Drag. That is, in an efficient Golf Stroke, each lagging Component puts a drag on the preceding, or leading, Component -- in both directions. In other words, from Address (and its Pre-Shot Routine) to the Finish and at all points in between (from Feet to Clubhead), you feel the Lag, and you feel the Drag.

Connection is all about Sequencing the various Components of the Total Motion to create the mandatory Lag Pressures.

It most assuredly is not about creating static and artificial pressures of one body part against another. In fact . . .

That way lies sorrow.

Don't I know it! Between the sway I developed and all that unbending of the right wrist from years of other sports, I've struggled for years and years to get a consistent, powerful swing. I think I have a chance now!

[Yoda]

Agree, you are correct BUT The feeling that Hogan conveyed is important. And that is all that is good because he does not do as he feels.

Yoda, you win the prize hands down for precision alignment knowledge. BUT I have to give the prize for conveying the feel in the golf stroke to -first place, Ben Doyle and then hogan.

Merry Christmas

The "Jolly Old" Bear

Especially in that group, Bear, #3 works for me -- big time.

Thanks.

[Yoda]

. . . I've struggled for years and years to get a consistent, powerful swing. I think I have a chance now!

BMont,

You think you have a chance.

I know you do!

The bridge from 'can't to can' is our joint responsibility. My mission is to teach precision Mechanics and support that process with my faith in you. Your mission is to absorb my ideas and translate them into describable Feels. Once done, you will have faith in yourself.

First, in drill.

Then, in practice.

Later, onto the course and in competition.

Walking together across that bridge, the 'other side' comes closer and closer. Soon, you will be there.

And join the happy throng that has arrived before.

[brianmontgomery2000]

BMont,

You think you have a chance.

I know you do!

The bridge from 'can't to can' is our joint responsibility. My mission is to teach precision Mechanics and support that process with my faith in you. Your mission is to absorb my ideas and translate them into describable Feels. Then, you will have faith in yourself.

First, in drill.

Then, in practice.

Later, onto the course and in competition.

Walking together across that bridge, the 'other side' comes closer and closer. Soon, you will be there.

And join the happy throng that has arrived before.

I know I can do this -- thank you for reminding me.

And thank you for reminding me of the progression. I made great strides this summer, but playing took priority over drill and practice. Winter gives me time (snow since Dec. 1).

[brianmontgomery2000]

I don't know if Bear only had technical talk in mind, but other topics I'd like to talk about involve why TGM never quite "took off" and what we could do to get Alignment Golf into S&T levels of popularity (I've been recommending this site to all my friends).

One thing that occurs to me is that TGM is kind of like a religious conversion -- there is a bit of faith initially to get past everything you thought you knew about golf so you can "see the light" as it were.

I'd also like to see a discussion about how everyone incorporates insights from other "methods" or systems. Do you look at everything from a TGM point of view? Through a TGM filter? As peer level thinking (i.e. each has equal weight)?

[Yoda]

One thing that occurs to me is that TGM is kind of like a religious conversion -- there is a bit of faith initially to get past everything you thought you knew about golf so you can "see the light" as it were.

No religious conversion required.

Just big ideas to understand.

In Life, here are at least three material 'biggies':

Food.

Money.

Sex.

Everybody knows them.

And experiences them in their own way.

As they are fundamentally . . .

And, in their endless variations.



So it is with the The Golfing Machine:

Centrifugal Force.

Hinge Action.

The Inclined Plane.

As they are fundamentally . . .

And, in their endless variations.

[david sandridge]

Lynn's post " Unfortunately, in Five Lessons, that Force (Non-Accelerating Thrust / 6-C-0 #2) was misinterpreted (and illustrated) as a Compression Force -- the exact opposite of a Tension Force -- one created by bringing the elbows 'in' toward each other. This action results in a horizontal, squeezed condition of the arms and not an in-line stretched condition. Both actions create upper arm tension and upper body adherence, but whereas the Tension Force creates Power Package Alignment and Structure, the Compression Force destroys it. So, if you want to feel what Hogan felt, do what he did, not what he said he did.

So as I understand it. EA is very important. It is mentioned frequently in the "checklist of all strojkes" The compression force is destructive and should be avoided. EA is a tension force that does compress the arms to the chest and that is all the compression that is needed. No separate compression or banding force!. Another A Ha moment for me. Even after hearing you talk of Hogan's banding picture at Cuscowilla I didn't connect the feeling of EA vs Hogan's banding feeling. So extensor action is all that is needed!

[david sandridge]

Another thought

It would be helpful for me to tie MacDonald's exercises to extensor action. MacDonalds seem so relaxed and free flowing. Putting together the power package with EA seems to add some tensions. So should you add tricep extension to MacDonald's? I know for me doing EA often seems to lead to some interference with folding and unfolding of the right arm. If you are doing LFT the muscles fire to do the pickup and they need to relax is swingers to allow for "throw out" Of course hitters don't have to worry about that cause they are firing them. Lynn can you elaborate this

[Yoda]

If you are doing LFT the muscles fire to do the pickup and they need to relax is swingers to allow for "throw out" Of course hitters don't have to worry about that cause they are firing them. Lynn can you elaborate this

I don't understand your sentence, David. Please rephrase, and I'll do my best. Thanks!

[chipingguru]

Speaking of the right elbow and EA, at what point does the right forearm and the shaft form the 90 degree angle?

That EA can be tricky if you get the elbow facing the side at the top rather than the ground, thus having more that 90 degrees(and less support), or get the right wrist cocking and creating less than 90 degrees.

Not sure the mere use of EA will get the correct alignment without some strong monitoring of how that elbow is working.