PS Yoda , what notations would you recommend we make to our 6th or 7th editions in this regard?
Here is a nice Yoda post from the LBG archives in which is he discusses the Rotated Shoulder Turn. Why would it be listed in the 7th editions Basic Strokes 12-1 and 12-2 I wonder?
More importantly I hope Yoda comes back and recommends some notations for our 6th and 7th editions in regard to the Slide Hip turn.
Here is a nice Yoda post from the LBG archives in which is he discusses the Rotated Shoulder Turn. Why would it be listed in the 7th editions Basic Strokes 12-1 and 12-2 I wonder?
More importantly I hope Yoda comes back and recommends some notations for our 6th and 7th editions in regard to the Slide Hip turn.
Maybe this should be its own thread sorry for the digression.
There are other items, but for now, just leave things as they were before Homer died:
1. Standard Hip Turn (10-14-A); not Slide (10-14-B).
2. On Plane Shoulder Turn (10-13-D); not Rotated (10-13-C).
3. Hinge Action (7-10 / Ball Behavior) in Zone Three (9-3 / Ball Control); not in Zone Two (9-2 / Power).
More for the posthumous editors:
4. Slide Hip Turn (6th, 7th editions) demands a Delayed (not Zero) Up and Down Turn constraint in 11-14-B. Further, photos 10-14-B #1 and #2 require an explanatory reference to the nonexistent Delayed Turn. Better, a reference to photos 10-14-A #1 and #2 (Standard) with an explanatory note differentiating the employed Sequencing.
There are other items, but for now, just leave things as they were before Homer died:
1. Standard Hip Turn (10-14-A); not Slide (10-14-B).
2. On Plane Shoulder Turn (10-13-D); not Rotated (10-13-C).
3. Hinge Action (7-10 / Ball Behavior) in Zone Three (9-3 / Ball Control); not in Zone Two (9-2 / Power).
More for the posthumous editors:
4. Slide Hip Turn (6th, 7th editions) demands a Delayed (not Zero) Up and Down Turn constraint in 11-14-B. Further, photos 10-14-B #1 and #2 require an explanatory reference to the nonexistent Delayed Turn. Better, a reference to photos 10-14-A #1 and #2 (Standard) with an explanatory note differentiating the employed Sequencing.
Thats great Lynn
When I went to make the notations in my 6th, there were a few already there and in what appear to be your hand! As if you knew my journey would bring me this way at some point.
Those photos that accompany the Slide Hip Turn are indeed troubling! Its far easier on the eye and brain to make the necessary notations you recommend to the Standard Hip Turn photos 10-14-A #1 and #2. I have actually crossed out photos 10-14-B, #1 and #2!
What an experience, rotating through the shot rather than sliding, so much more power and control of the shot. I never crack 110 on the driver MPH but did several times and averaged 107. I hit 7 straight 5 irons 205 yards onto the range green.
It was like the harder and faster, under control, turn left from the top of my backswing the straighter it went.
Congrats with the progress. The paradox of golf is that it only gets easier the better you get.
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
Ah BerntR, how much time do you have? This should be a thread of its own with all of the guys who played back then, like myself, posting photos. I even have film, super 8.
Actually I'm a rather busy person. Waisting far too much time on LGB and TGM these days. But I have worked hard for several years in a row so I don't feel bad about it. Besides, I am hooked at the moment and enjoying it.
Actually I'm a rather busy person. Waisting far too much time on LGB and TGM these days. But I have worked hard for several years in a row so I don't feel bad about it. Besides, I am hooked at the moment and enjoying it.
Time spent actually THINKING about your golf alignments and procedures is ALWAYS time well-spent. Time spent WRITING about what you THINK is worth ten times more.
In lieu of that thinking and writing, most people just 'hit balls'.
It takes someone special to make 'hitting balls' meaningful.
Time spent actually THINKING about your golf alignments and procedures is ALWAYS time well-spent. Time spent WRITING about what you THINK is worth ten times more.
In lieu of that thinking and writing, most people just 'hit balls'.
It takes someone special to make 'hitting balls' meaningful.
That should be a sticky! Most golfers don't appreciate the difference between practice and hitting balls.
@gmbtempe
Regarding the feel for a correct hip action, the easiest image I've found is is setting up with your back just in front of a wall/mirror. When you pivot back, you'll feel your right back pocket at some point touching/swiping the wall (at a point left of it's original position). From the top, keep this point of contact as you turn the left hip towards the wall. This will move your weight onto the left leg and the left hip to a position more forward than at address, but still within the left-foot line. No more danger of sliding.
PS, did you ever talk to Greg Smith (GSEM) in Mesa? I'm sure he could help you along the TGM path.
I had a couple lessons from Greg Smith last summer.
I have had some great success with getting the hips to rotate more and less slide the past couple weeks. I was able to do this with more of a hula hip move, I was able to improve my pivot rotation with a little more weight off my left foot at the top. Its worked well for contact and club speed (I dare say I am almost getting long with the driver). Directional issues persist with the shorter irons (driver and long irons are ok).
I had a couple lessons from Greg Smith last summer.
I have had some great success with getting the hips to rotate more and less slide the past couple weeks. I was able to do this with more of a hula hip move, I was able to improve my pivot rotation with a little more weight off my left foot at the top. Its worked well for contact and club speed (I dare say I am almost getting long with the driver). Directional issues persist with the shorter irons (driver and long irons are ok).
We'll get there... at least we both have a plan we like!
Kevin
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Tonight, I simply pretended I was Yoda and Kevin which was interesting.
I leaned on my left side, stretched my left arm backwards until parallel to the ground and threw my #3 pp at the back quad of the ball.
Earlier in the night I
had been simply dropping my right elbow from the top and hitting the ball pretty long and straight . You know how we 21 hcp'ers roll! LMAO
Anyway, I suddenly realized that the 20 something kid next to me was not hitting his driver further than me as was the case earlier in the evening. Despite his mightiest torque which made me wince as I watched, our shots were both disappearing at the top of the arc somewhere near the 250 marker in the dusk!
I tried my 3 and 5 wood, my 7 and 5 iron, all of which seemed to wobble as the shot through the air picking up an extra gear. Way cool.
My chips went right where I aimed them and they seemed to pop!
But, if I understand your post correctly, by turning my hips and throwing my #3 at the ball, I will have more zip?????
Could there really be such a simple way to describe and build a very good golf swing?
I am now worried about putting. My pp # 3 will be knocking the ball back to the 100 yard marker! I'm sure the book will have the solution!
Patrick
pEducated Hands are those that can feel the resistance of motion -- CLUBHEAD
lag. If the #3 pressure point is lost then "LAG" cannot be sustained. The hands
must control the pivot! Have the #3 pressure point completely replace the
CLUBHEAD, take #3 to the ball. The heart and soul of G.O.L.F. Is developing a
swing based on the hands. Teach Hinge Action without Body Motion.
Originally Posted by gmbtempe
What an experience, rotating through the shot rather than sliding, so much more power and control of the shot. I never crack 110 on the driver MPH but did several times and averaged 107. I hit 7 straight 5 irons 205 yards onto the range green.
It was like the harder and faster, under control, turn left from the top of my backswing the straighter it went.
Great day, thanks all!
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