For one thing it explains Hogan's ball position chart much more clearly. Where does it say in 1-L 5-17 that one should open their stance as the low point gets further ahead of the ball? One must infer that information themselves based on other statements.
The D-Plane is there to help discern true path as opposed to plane line for the real resultant path of the clubhead during impact. It's been a while since I've brushed up on my TGM but I pulled it out for the sections you cited and cannot find any reference to true path. Is there another location I should be looking besides 1-L 5-17?
Also, something else D-Plane explains is that straighter shots come from higher lofted clubs than longer clubs. That's something I explained in the first video cited but I do not see any such mention by Homer.
Shoot me your e-mail. I'll be happy to send you a book . . . that you can search . . . do the work for yourself . . . if you think it's screwed up . . .fine . . . clearly you and the squadron came to the party to stick your weenerz in the mashed taterz . . . you got 3 posts at this joint . . we ain't spoon feeding you . . . and tell 'em to spell my name right . . . it's Richie Cruise.
I never said Homer came up with the D-plane . . . however in 2-D-0 . . . he clearly says PRACTICALLY right angles to the face . . . didn't give the exact percentage . . . can you?
So he didn't have a video camera . . . a radar machine . . . or a computer . . . he was a lot closer than anybody else . . . was it 100%? Maybe not . . .but pretty dang close . . . and tell your homeeeez to spell my name right . . .
I guess all that chicken clogged up your system as i never repeat never said that you said it was Homer's concept. Why so defensive just a simple question and you get your feathers all ruffled and i don't know what your talking about my homies, i said i'll give you my PH# in a pm and when you or your homie Kev call me you can then realize i'm not who you think i am then i want an apology for just asking a question and getting beaten up about it.I got nothing to hide.
I guess all that chicken clogged up your system as i never repeat never said that you said it was Homer's concept. Why so defensive just a simple question and you get your feathers all ruffled and i don't know what your talking about my homies, i said i'll give you my PH# in a pm and when you or your homie Kev call me you can then realize i'm not who you think i am then i want an apology for just asking a question and getting beaten up about it.I got nothing to hide.
Dude it's the freakin' intree net . . . my feathers ain't ruffled I could care less . . . but you ain't gettin no apology . . . that's the same play book my old lady runs . . you coulda axed your question IN A P.M.
Tell 'em to spell my name right . . .it's Napoleon Bonaparte
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Dude it's the freakin' intree net . . . my feathers ain't ruffled I could care less . . . but you ain't gettin no apology . . . you coulda axed your question IN A P.M.
Tell 'em to spell my name right . . .it's Napoleon Bonaparte
Well i think you care a lot that's why your acting like a high school girl hoping to get asked to the prom, a pm to ask a question why the secrecy? Why so defensive? You know Napoleon had a mental problem...lol Your right you are a Dick.
Well i think you care a lot that's why your acting like a high school girl hoping to get asked to the prom, a pm to ask a question why the secrecy? Why so defensive? You know Napoleon had a mental problem...lol Your right you are a Dick.
Come dude . . .you got like 16 posts . . . all of 'em are jacking with people . . . if you don't like Homer Kelley . . . LBG . . . whatever fine . . . but let's not pretend you aren't on a mission . . what's it gonna solve you and the posse coming over to rub some people's nose in it?
And now you call me a "Dick" . . . I need an apology . . .
And tell 'em to spell my name right it's Britney Spears.
Come dude . . .you got like 16 posts . . . all of 'em are jacking with people . . . if you don't like Homer Kelley . . . LBG . . . whatever fine . . . but let's not pretend you aren't on a mission . . what's it gonna solve you and the posse coming over to rub some people's nose in it?
And now you call me a "Dick" . . . I need an apology . . .
And tell 'em to spell my name right it's Britney Spears.
You called yourself a Dick and i agreed. What mission? like i said i'll give you my PH# and you call and see if i'm on a mission then you can apologize. I asked a simple question and all you have been doing is attacking me calling me Mike etc. If your really nice maybe i'll take you to that prom Britney..lol.
There are now two camps, one espousing Kelley’s work the other Jorgensen’s. This is like disputing the value of the chicken over the egg.
Naah, Strav . . . no "two camps". There is only Truth (as we individually perceive it and debate it and as it actually is).
Regarding LynnBlakeGolf.com and the participants in civil, animated discussions on this and an infinite variety of other topics, our policy is: "Vive la difference"!
Homer Kelley himself stated that "because of questions of all kinds, reams of additional detail must be made available -- but separately. And probably endlessly" (1-H). The reams of "additional detail" would obviously include precision measurements made possible (and generally available) by modern technologies. Homer was a scientist who always sought to reconcile observations -- however precise -- with law. Given that he has been dead 27 years, he would herald these recent proofs with a hearty "It's about time!".
No one here is attempting to 'squash' the D-Plane. In fact, if I've got my 'readers' on right, the title of this thread is "Must See Videos", and the opening post offers several direct video links to promote its understanding. Then, several posts followed applauding those links.
The first combative post was #12 from footwedge. His agenda was obvious, and his subsequent posts have offered zero educational insights. ["My dad can lick your dad" doesn't qualify as an 'insight'].
Unless his attitude changes -- not holding my breath! -- his presence will be short-lived on this site.
You called yourself a Dick and i agreed. What mission? like i said i'll give you my PH# and you call and see if i'm on a mission then you can apologize. I asked a simple question and all you have been doing is attacking me calling me Mike etc. If your really nice maybe i'll take you to that prom Britney..lol.
No I called my self "THE" Dick . . . anyway . . . in your first post you asked where could you find the d-plane in Homer's book . . . it ain't in there . . . you knew that. Right? Or am I wrong about that?
Then you made the point that the d-plane is better. Fine. So I am to assume that since you think the d-plane is better than Homer's "stuff" . . you knew the d-plane ain't in the book.
So . . . what was the point of these posts? Were you seeking information or here to make a point? Either way fine.
I didn't call you Mike . . . who is Mike? But whoever Mike is . .
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