A sixth impact law?

[neil]

Angled Hinging and Straight Ball Flight.

Clubface Closed at Impact, therefore Impact Point must be on Outside Aft (but Visual Inside Aft).

Clubface Square at Separation, Impact Point dead centre.

Simultaneous Closing and Layback refers to the Clubface Closing relative to the Plane Line.

That i can relate to ..I was probably putting too much interpretatin of my own into the initial question.Thanks

[badgolfer]

thanks fella's. So in conclusion you feel that the ball will move left to right in the air? I am not sure because the face was closed at impact and there is some research being done on this at the moment. A more normal situation would be the person who arrives at impact with an open face and during impact the face is closing while the ball is on it.
Another one for you. How do golf machine instructors teach ball below/ ball above the feet? The lie of the club/face tilt seems to be a big factor to me.
thanks in advance
Gordon Morrison

[neil]

thanks fella's. So in conclusion you feel that the ball will move left to right in the air? I am not sure because the face was closed at impact and there is some research being done on this at the moment. A more normal situation would be the person who arrives at impact with an open face and during impact the face is closing while the ball is on it.
Another one for you. How do golf machine instructors teach ball below/ ball above the feet? The lie of the club/face tilt seems to be a big factor to me.
thanks in advance
Gordon Morrison

The more lofted the club the more directional deviation for uphill (going left)or downhill(going right)lies.

[Burner]

thanks fella's. So in conclusion you feel that the ball will move left to right in the air? I am not sure because the face was closed at impact and there is some research being done on this at the moment. A more normal situation would be the person who arrives at impact with an open face and during impact the face is closing while the ball is on it.
Another one for you. How do golf machine instructors teach ball below/ ball above the feet? The lie of the club/face tilt seems to be a big factor to me.
thanks in advance
Gordon Morrison

It is necessary to reorientate the sweet spot by lowering the hands on downhill lies and raising them on uphill lies. i.e shallow the clubshaft angle for downhill and steepen it for uphill. That, along with other standard set up adjustments, will get the job done nicely.

[badgolfer]

Not sure i agree IB. If you lower your hands when the ball is already below your feet it raises the toe even more off the ground and renders the toe and sweetspot almost unusable and vice versa on ball above. Are you trying to get the sole of the club in a more normal position in relation to the slope i.e flatter?
Explain more

[ldeit]

Ball below the feet:
When the toe is down, the clubface is aimed to the right. Lowering the hands, will move the toe up, thus leveling the leading edge.

Ball above the feet:
When the toe is up, the clubface is aimed to the left. Raising the hands, will move the toe down, thus leveling the leading edge.

The leading edge should only be used to aim when the clubhead is soled flat. Otherwise it will not be in the same direction as the face of the clubhead. That is why you want the leading edge level.

ldeit

[Burner]

Ball below the feet:
When the toe is down, the clubface is aimed to the right. Lowering the hands, will move the toe up, thus leveling the leading edge.

Ball above the feet:
When the toe is up, the clubface is aimed to the left. Raising the hands, will move the toe down, thus leveling the leading edge.

The leading edge should only be used to aim when the clubhead is soled flat. Otherwise it will not be in the same direction as the face of the clubhead. That is why you want the leading edge level.ldeit

Nicely put, Lee.

[Burner]

Not sure i agree IB. If you lower your hands when the ball is already below your feet it raises the toe even more off the ground and renders the toe and sweetspot almost unusable and vice versa on ball above. Are you trying to get the sole of the club in a more normal position in relation to the slope i.e flatter?
Explain more

Hi Gordon,

Lee nailed this one.

Hope you are keeping well in the frozen north.

[tongzilla]

If ball is below feet and leading edge on the same angle as the slop, you can either put up with the slice spin or compensate to make it go straight.