I've seen his video clip and he is way way offbase. In it he said that the reason that Homer taught the right forearm takeaway was to not to cock the right wrist... no mention of the onplane functions of the primary lever assembly having to move upwards against the vertical plane of the hinge action (the thing that isn't a metaphor, but defines specific left arm planes). He mentions pivot centers for each, which is a myth that he has created. It is not about what powers what - it is about being onplane or offplane. To be onplane like Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson...etc, that right forearm has to lift the primary lever assembly via the secondary hinge.
It is NOT that weird thing he was doing when demonstrating. Brian is a GSED, and he answered a question based on golfing machine terminology and then got it so wrong...
Guys - If you want to discuss what Brian teaches, please do it on his site where he can defend and clarify the teaching. This forum is about Lynn and what he teaches. Leave the references to how other teachers do it elsewhere please.
Please edit your posts, or PM me and I'll do it.
Guys - If you want to discuss what Brian teaches, please do it on his site where he can defend and clarify the teaching. This forum is about Lynn and what he teaches. Leave the references to how other teachers do it elsewhere please.
Please edit your posts, or PM me and I'll do it.
Thanks,
Bagger
This really has nothing at all to do with what Brian teaches. It however has everything to do with how people view the right forearm pickup due to his influence and how they percieve TGM. I think its a very important issue but edit it if you wish.... just leave in all the technical references.....
What if I was to say that you could use a right forearm takeaway with any plane shift variation.... The right forearm takeaway is manditory, the plane shift variation is a variation - one that has got its own particular hazards in terms of getting to the turned shoulder plane at the top of the backstroke. You could very well double shift and still use a right forearm takeaway....or quadruple shift for that matter.... you can even cock your right wrist (which alters the forearms relation to the clubshaft) but still the only way that primary lever assembly is going upwards and still maintain the plane of the secondary lever assembly with its straight line relationship to the plane line is via the right forearm picking it up.... Ok so now we got that myth out the way.
Ok fair enough. Good post.
So long as it (RFT), in the way that I always see it used ("Now lift the club up the plane with your r. forearm...") is not the only way. (and not always ONLY with the r. forearm, by itself)
R. forearm lifts in all strokes.
Cool.
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This really has nothing at all to do with what Brian teaches. It however has everything to do with how people view the right forearm pickup due to his influence and how they percieve TGM. I think its a very important issue but edit it if you wish.... just leave in all the technical references.....
It's an important issue, and influences come from everywhere. I'm just asking that you address the issue without disparaging the source. Go to Brians site if you want to debate how he teaches it. I'm only interested in how Lynn teaches it.
No more finger pointing, and it's not going to come from this site. As of last night, Brian has made a commitment to do the same.
It's an important issue, and influences come from everywhere. I'm just asking that you address the issue without disparaging the source. Go to Brians site if you want to debate how he teaches it. I'm only interested in how Lynn teaches it.
No more finger pointing, and it's not going to come from this site. As of last night, Brian has made a commitment to do the same.
Thanks,
Bagger
Im in full agreement with the finger pointing and won't happen again.
So long as it (RFT), in the way that I always see it used ("Now lift the club up the plane with your r. forearm...") is not the only way. (and not always ONLY with the r. forearm, by itself)
R. forearm lifts in all strokes.
Cool.
That right forearm is very cool indeed .
I've been trying to show here is the role of the right forearm and its participation at startup controls all three dimensions of the onplane golf stroke simultaneously and its influences on the left arm as the power package is transported.
I've been trying to show here is the role of the right forearm and its participation at startup controls all three dimensions of the onplane golf stroke simultaneously and its influences on the left arm as the power package is transported.
There is a good discussion of this topic in the Archives "Magic Of The Right Forearm / Elbow Action GM#1" at http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2667 It is my understanding that "tracing" with the right forearm is only useful approaching, at impact, and beyond. In the backswing, once the right elbow starts to bend to raise the club and the right forearm begins to point upward it is no longer a useful toll for tracing. In fact I've never heard of anyone advocating "tracing" in the backswing, the most heard 'tool' for keeping on plane being the "either end of the club is pointing at the plane line, or the club is parallel to it".
Absolutely not, Dave. The Right Hand Grip is a finger Grip -- as opposed to a ham-fisted palm Grip -- and the cup of the Hand (the palm) covers the Left Hand thumb. The Grip pressure should be firm with each of the encircling fingers, except with the right forefinger (with its #3 Pressure Point), which should be somewhat lighter (to keep it sensitive to the Downstroke Lag Pressure).
Originally Posted by Ozgolfer
I learn something everytime I read one of your posts Lynn. All this time I have been trying to ensure I apply pressure with the #3 pressure point and keep the same degree of firmness there as with pressure points one and two.
Would you please decribe how to lift the right forearm to maintain those pressure points on backswing? Does lifting mean pulling by encircling fingers?
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I, too, would like clarification about the right forearm lift. By using the word "lift" or "pick up" I'm under the impression that it is a pulling action. What muscles "lift" the right forearm?
Are we leaving the right hand out of the backswing equation in these discussions on purpose? I have a hard time understanding the biomechanics of the RFT when the RH is not discussed. It seems to me that the right forearm/elbow will not bend correctly unless the right hand is bent or bending back.
Also, the picture of Tiger in the takeaway move shows his right arm higher than at address for sure, but this seems to be only an effect of his shoulders/body turning. Whether he is turning the body or moving his hands and arms back to make this happen doesn't matter. But lift or the raising of the forearm just seems to be an effect.
Sorry if I'm not understanding TGM principles correctly, I'm a simple guy with a small vocabulary. Thanks in advance for the claifications.
The right arm is always in a state of extending or trying to become straight which is a non accelerating thrust hence not moving the left arm. You can probably guess this is called extensor action.
The left arm is connected to the left shoulder and can move around this point with its range of motion being spherical. The right forefinger or pp3 traces back this line and then lifts the primary lever assembly upwards on the vertical hinge action plane. Because this plane is inside a sphere and goes through a center point (left shoulder) this means that the upwards motion is circular and because of such, the structure of the right arm has to collapse as this tracing occurs inorder to lift the left arm on this plane. This is the primary cause of loading acc no.1.
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"Solid powerful impact always be there at the second loop on the way down along the K& line of educated hands!?"
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