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Old 10-15-2006, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda

DoubleU X, W and Z...
Y? Or has this gone over my head lol
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Old 10-15-2006, 11:17 PM
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Jim, long before I heard of Yoda, two other GSED told me I needed to memorize a list similar to what Yoda has published.

My first reaction was what the heck for? It is an open book test, I have it available if I need to reference it, etc.

Well I took a pre-test, not open book and to my surprise I struggled. It really wasn't that hard, it was only 66 or 67 questions and it only asked for a handful of references. So it was back to the book. When I took the open book test, I discovered that knowing where to go made a big difference and if you do take the test, if the rules are the same, don't paraphrase. Since you have the book, write it out as it is written.

Back to memorize or not? In life there are subjects that are taught that require you to memorize if you are going to be able to do your job. In school, grade school, you memorize the times tables, you memorize a lot of information. If you had taken Latin, you would discover that you need to memorize a number of verbs and their tenses, they don't track like normal verbs, so you memorize.

Does it make you a better teacher? Only if you do something with that information and that you understand it. At least that is my opinion. Being able to quote the book chapter, paragraph and verse and not being able to explain it or apply it will not make you a better instructor.

I think that memorizing it will help you along the way in becoming a better instructor, but not memorizing it doesn't by default make you a poor instructor, at least that is my opinion. Where the rubber hits the road is having the knowledge and understanding and then be able to communicate it and Experience helps...
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Old 10-15-2006, 11:27 PM
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Y? Or has this gone over my head lol
Right you are, JT1. I've fixed it!
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Old 10-15-2006, 11:48 PM
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Right you are, JT1. I've fixed it!
Good stuff mate. Me being me wasn't totally sure if i missed a point

Cheers mate
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Old 10-16-2006, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jim_0068

I have had some pretty damn hard finance theory exams that were open book and it sure was more than just an "learning experience."

I'm out.
Every open book exam I ever had in college were extremely difficult but it wasn't because of the material in the book but what wasn't in the book that need to be applied. Every see a lawyer work without a open book, he knows every passage it contains, yet it yields no answers by itself.

The AI exam is NOT this type of exam. At least the way it was once given.

And ever since web sites like Yoda's, Evan's old site and the original TGM home office forum - many could pass the Level One A & B test and never hurt the spine of the book in the process. Yoda is now the "learning experience."

The GOLFING MACHINE would be NOTHING without AIs able to speak the same language even if they only speak it with other AIs.



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Old 10-16-2006, 05:45 PM
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When I taught at the college level, and when I teach/mentor programmers here at work, I find that memorization is critical both for me and the students. There is no comparison between those who do and those who don't memorize the key concepts, terms, etc...

On that note, I will be diving deeper into TGM this coming year. I believe your 10 steps is the structured plan I need to start laying a foundation for this effort. Are there any other materials and/or steps you'd recommend I study as I get into this?
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Old 10-16-2006, 06:10 PM
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Could someone break down Happy Gilmore's action? Anything nonstandard?
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).

The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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Old 10-16-2006, 06:39 PM
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He sways a little and his lower body action needs some work
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
The difference between this website and at least one other is...

We don't try to 'win.'

There is no 'all or nothing' mentality.

This site is about friends helping friends...

Not about 'me beating you' or 'you beating me.'

We continue to welcome you here, as we always have, despite your other allegiance and affiliation.[/b]
I've never purposely started arguements and i've always been civil. And this isn't about winning, it's about what i know about teaching. I respect your opinion but i feel extremely comfortable calling it wong.

All i am saying is that memorization has 0 to do with being a great teacher. Not being a great student or trying to learn something but TEACHING. Now as a RESULT of teaching something everyday you will come to memorize at least some of it.

Hell my g/f who has extremely difficult learning disabilties could probably tell you word for word what some of the agreements are on a mortage loan from working in the industry for 5+ years but that doesn't mean she could teach someone to be a loan officer or be one herself.
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
In the family rooms and school rooms of the USA, learning the alphabet and basics of the written word usually starts here:

[Sing the song...you know it!]
A B C D E F G...

H I J K elomenopee.

Q R S.

T U V.

DoubleU X, Y and Z...

Now I know my ABCs.

What do you think of me?


That is the beginning.

For a select few of us...

It ends with writing War and Peace.

The rest of us function effectively somewhere in-between.
That's great because the above is LEARNING not TEACHING. You think the teacher teaching the kids the ABCs is a wonderful teacher because he/she can recite the ABCs?
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