guys i have been pondering the aids available and just have not found anything that keeps the right wrist level. I am going to try and design something that would keep the wrist level thus making the right arm and elbow work properly in the swing. I bet there are others in the game that could benefit from this also. If there were a device that would ensure the right wrist stays level and then the fanning and right elbow can be used by someone that cannot get the feeling or the people like me that cannot break bad habits without positive reinforcement through an aid that ensures you do not cock the right wrist.
guys i have been pondering the aids available and just have not found anything that keeps the right wrist level. I am going to try and design something that would keep the wrist level thus making the right arm and elbow work properly in the swing. I bet there are others in the game that could benefit from this also. If there were a device that would ensure the right wrist stays level and then the fanning and right elbow can be used by someone that cannot get the feeling or the people like me that cannot break bad habits without positive reinforcement through an aid that ensures you do not cock the right wrist.
Honestly do the dowels. Check the gallery for the videos. Not only is it the best way to keep a Level Right Wrist but connect 7-3 with the Flying wedges and experience the 2-J’s into Impact. Dowels Rock. Check out what Yoda says about them.
its difficult to maintain an Un-cocked right wrist but really brainless to maintain a level right wrist
Nuke -
I could be half-cocked or a bit brainless myself...but I think the grape goat is referring to his right wrist position as it nears the top/end of the backstroke. Maybe some clarification from Grapegoat would help.
Double cocked.
The Key does a good job of keeping the right wrist from cocking. It has a strap goes across the base of the fingers that secures the top portion. The internal metal piece is bendable and has a slight curve around the base of the index finger. You have to really force a right wrist cock.
You can also use it on the left hand by bending the metal flat. Keeps the left wrist flat.
It's not ideal, but gets the job done.
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I am saying this because... Level if not explained properly , some people will do un-cocked. (Wrist and thumb -level )..... then there is no way but to struggle , start hitting high slices or something. Sorry Grape and Uncle Bagger, that it didn't come out well.
Just in case. level is trying to extend the first knuckle ( belonging to forefinger) as far away from the wrist joint( thumb side). thus forming a Wedge between the thumb and wrist ..
And if the right wrist is level in the first place and the arms are hanging nicely below the shoulder at setup. (some people have their arms in front of the shoulder and also makes the job slightly tougher). there is less reason to struggle to fight the right wrist from cocking... Its then the job of the right elbow /forearms job to cock the left wrist and load the PP... Thus it becomes easier... ( not brainless , ok ba.. brainless of me to use that word )
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thanks for the input guys. From what i understand the club should get to the top by the bending of the right elbow for a right handed player. The problem i have is when i get the club hip high i tend to cock and bend the club from that position and end up getting the club below plane and behind me.
an ideal solution to the problem in my opinion is to do what Rob says and freeze the right wrist. So by setting up in impact fix position and basically locking the wrist in that very position then the club will fan through startup, and then the right elbow can bend and bring the club up plane and not destroy the geometry that was set at address. I did not notice that part of the Key so ill look into that. My idea was to make a piece of metal that is set to the bend in my right wrist at impact fix. Then take another piece of metal and place it across the top of the right wrist therefore basically locking it into position. I would love to have no cock in the right wrist and use the elbow to cock the left wrist, or that is what i interpreted the information i have recieved. If i am wrong about this please correct me. The extensor action is very key to make the wrist stay level in my opinion. I have just had problems getting the best feel from dowels in this case. If i hit pitches from this position and the right wrist stays in the same position then the alignments stay intact and the club goes up plane very well. I really appreciate the input i have recieved and best of wishes to all in their journey through the game
Nuke, from the explanations i have recieved of level. If the thumb and top of wrist are in line then the wrist is level and if the thumb is not in line then it would be cocked or fully uncocked. I dont recall anything about the right wrist being fully uncocked only on the left on the way to low point. I could be wrong on this so please dont quote me on that one. I just do not use the right elbow correctly and this is a way for me to feel when its done correctly and incorrectly
Last edited by grapegoat : 05-24-2007 at 11:27 PM.
Reason: forgot something
6B had some good advice with the dowels. When you start tracing a straight plane line in the backstroke, you will stay on plane which prevents the right wrist from bending too much in the backstroke.
As you said, extensor action is very helpful.
Lasers and maglights are also handy.
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agreed Bagger, i am in the process of getting a couple big mirrors mounted to the wall, similar to a gym style setup both meeting in a corner and about 6ft tall. With this in place the look look look will be much easier. Is there something cheaper than having it cut.
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