"One of my big driving keys isn't a swing position as much as it is a feeling--a feeling that my LEFT ARM IS BEING PULLED from its socket after impact. I think if I focused on forcing my left arm to straighten I'd be in trouble. It's more about the force of my swing pulling it straight, and me just being relaxed and letting it happen" (Camillo Villegas, Golf Magazine 3/08 ).
Is this a consequence of maintaining extensor action or does it have to do with the left shoulder climbing after impact? Other ideas?
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
If I'm trying to bust one I can pretty much stop thiinking about extensor action from release point on, because I couldn't bend my left arm if I wanted to. As a swinger, I believe you feel it strongest through impact as that is the point where you left shoulder is going up and back at the same time your club head is still traveling down and out and seeking its inline condition. This is when you'll most feel the centrifugal force of the club head moving away from the center of rotation, your left shoulder.
If I'm trying to bust one I can pretty much stop thiinking about extensor action from release point on, because I couldn't bend my left arm if I wanted to. As a swinger, I believe you feel it strongest through impact as that is the point where you left shoulder is going up and back at the same time your club head is still traveling down and out and seeking its inline condition. This is when you'll most feel the centrifugal force of the club head moving away from the center of rotation, your left shoulder.
Perfect. I agreeeeee. And moving the ball back in your stance disturbs that alignment.
Perfect. I agreeeeee. And moving the ball back in your stance disturbs that alignment.
Moving the ball back would just mean you feel the max pulling sensation later after impact, right? That's assuming you aren't adding excessive axis tilt and moving low point back to compensate for a too-far back ball position. It also assumes the ball is teed high enough that you don't hit the ground at/before low point, as that tends to lessen that pulling out of socket feel of the left arm.
Moving the ball back would just mean you feel the max pulling sensation later after impact, right?
If you're lucky. The feeling is Centrifugal force. Moving the ball back means that the ball is gone before the geometry that produced the force could be fully developed.
I don't think it's good to use feel as a procedural key for your movement. I really believe in using feel as a tool for integrating your movement. Besides that general statement- focusing on a particular feel such as what he experiences- not good- unless it is a process of changing your movement. This post requires too many questions and answers for this forum but I had to put my two cents in- couldn't resist on such an important topic as that. Love that stuff. Watch the smartazz follow-up post- I can smell the smell of grease wafting this way!
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"One of my big driving keys isn't a swing position as much as it is a feeling--a feeling that my LEFT ARM IS BEING PULLED from its socket after impact. I think if I focused on forcing my left arm to straighten I'd be in trouble. It's more about the force of my swing pulling it straight, and me just being relaxed and letting it happen" (Camillo Villegas, Golf Magazine 3/08 ).
Is this a consequence of maintaining extensor action or does it have to do with the left shoulder climbing after impact? Other ideas?
I don't think he is alluding to extensor action but you might gain an insight into what Mr Villegas is saying by making a few flat out left arm only swings.
This "drill" is the panacea for many ills and should, imho, be undertaken regularly.
"One of my big driving keys isn't a swing position as much as it is a feeling--a feeling that my LEFT ARM IS BEING PULLED from its socket after impact. I think if I focused on forcing my left arm to straighten I'd be in trouble. It's more about the force of my swing pulling it straight, and me just being relaxed and letting it happen" (Camillo Villegas, Golf Magazine 3/08 ).
Is this a consequence of maintaining extensor action or does it have to do with the left shoulder climbing after impact? Other ideas?
I believe it's about the fast/powerful pivot rotation (the "cause" or "intent"), which generates "the force of my swing pulling it (the left arm) straight" or whatever supposed to happen or feel (the "effect"). He just happens to feel the left arm.
"if I focused on forcing my left arm to straighten (the wrong "intent" or replacing the "cause" with "effect") I'd be in trouble (the wrong "effect")." Or the "effect" can't be generated by executing an "effect".
What else do you want to do, except "just being relaxed and letting it happen""?
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
I do understand that swinging requires c/force,but,when I rely on this only,I just dont seem to be able to generate c/head speed,no matter what.
What I have been doing to compensate this is ,Manually uncocking L/wrist assisting c/force if you like,I read that ,1.that,s a no no,then also read a little somewhere else 2,it,s called educated hands.
My question is naturally, is it ok to do this or not.
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