That's right, Andy. In Pivot Strokes, the Downstroke begins at the ground (the Feet) and sequences upward through the Knees, Hips and Shoulders. The Hip Action (Hips pull Shoulders) shifts the weight and maintains the On Plane Right Shoulder during the Start Down. This Body Action pulls the Arms, and the Arms pull the Hands (which have experienced a momentary static period that defines the Top).
Found this old quote on some study I am doing.
This motion that starts the downstroke in a Pivot Stroke that begins with the feet. What does the foot do? Is it a rotational move with the left foot, does that rotate the left knee which starts to rotate the left femur and then pulls the hip leftward? Is the hip movement and lower left leg two separate motions or two intertwined motions?
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This motion that starts the downstroke in a Pivot Stroke that begins with the feet. What does the foot do? Is it a rotational move with the left foot, does that rotate the left knee which starts to rotate the left femur and then pulls the hip leftward? Is the hip movement and lower left leg two separate motions or two intertwined motions?
to me . . . .now this here is to me . . . . the joint segments are kinda like the power accumulators . . . . they get out of line then loaded and then get in line . . . you could get really technical about this deal for sure . . . so what part of the foot are you loading and so on and so on . . . but take the left ankle for instance . . . watch hogan . . . left ankle flexes and is loaded in the b.s. then is flexed and loaded more in startdown and then the ankle segment accumulator joint whatever you wanna call it starts getting IN LINE . . . crush the can squash the bug stomp the turd whatever . . . so . . . that's what happens that is a description OF THE PROCEDURE . . . but what IS THE PROCEDURE ITSELF? that one cat on them other forums considers the "lower body" to be anything below the thorax sternum or whatever . . . I kinda like that description because you can just say I'm going with the junk underneath there loading that joker and unloading it . . . using the ground . . . loaded like a hockey stop and go.
As you know I am a excessive hip slider, head hang back dropper, underplaner.
I worked on this, along with the other thread discussion about tightening up the radius and no joke my hands were right at the middle of my stance at the delivery line rather than my normal outside the right leg.
I need to do more testing but I was always told hip, thinking its more of a foot-knee-hip motion, in that order.
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This motion that starts the downstroke in a Pivot Stroke that begins with the feet. What does the foot do?....
To me, simply put, that video clearly shows a classic 'baseball' weight shift. Shift weight right to planted right foot (left heel lifts), shift weight left and plant the left foot.
That left hip bump/shift and planting left foot are functioning as one, in one simultaneous motion imho.
To me, simply put, that video clearly shows a classic 'baseball' weight shift. Shift weight right to planted right foot (left heel lifts), shift weight left and plant the left foot.
That left hip bump/shift and planting left foot are functioning as one, in one simultaneous motion imho.
Hi Andy. I have just been with Lynn for several days and I had the joy of learning a ton and watching Curt Sanders and Cathy Schmidt destroy golf balls.
Before meeting with Lynn, I had no Flail, not even a real paradigm for a Flail. My grip was bad as were many other things. Lynn spent my first day doing the MacDonald March with heels up and down. It took me a couple of weeks to become comfortable stepping on the right heel, balancing on the left toes and Lagging the club up.
Now, I practice doing that move as slowly as possible and "resting" at the top while my head is perfectly Stationary. I now feel very strong and stable at the TOP and I glare at that ball determined not to move until I see the club head Blur collect the ball on my way to the "Arrow through the Ear" position.
When I have rested at the Top, I am ready to snap the whip or Flail. This means a small, quick left heel down "as if I were afraid to step down off a cliff!" My left leg is 1.75" shorter than my right so maybe this won't work for you but Lynn's instructions worked for me regardless of my artificial left hip and length issues.
Here is my driver swing. Notice how I am trying to let my Flail work past my body. Below is Curt Sanders hitting it uhmmm further and better.
He is a BEAST and the nicest guy. He hit this ball so hard that the ball blacked out several times and wobbled as it tried to bounce off a military jet going by. It just kept elevating!
Anyway, Curt seems to restrict his head as his Flail destroys the ball! Now Andy, I'm not Curt or Lynn or Daryl or OB or Ben...I'm just saying...
Now I met this gentleman Wayne Watts. He is a very nice guy and Assistant Pro at Cuscowilla. Gracious and talented. Watch how he Flails around ! Left heel up and down!
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Hi Andy. I have just been with Lynn for several days and I had the joy of learning a ton and watching Curt Sanders and Cathy Schmidt destroy golf balls.
Before meeting with Lynn, I had no Flail, not even a real paradigm for a Flail. My grip was bad as were many other things. Lynn spent my first day doing the MacDonald March with heels up and down. It took me a couple of weeks to become comfortable stepping on the right heel, balancing on the left toes and Lagging the club up.
Now, I practice doing that move as slowly as possible and "resting" at the top while my head is perfectly Stationary. I now feel very strong and stable at the TOP and I glare at that ball determined not to move until I see the club head Blur collect the ball on my way to the "Arrow through the Ear" position.
When I have rested at the Top, I am ready to snap the whip or Flail. This means a small, quick left heel down "as if I were afraid to step down off a cliff!" My left leg is 1.75" shorter than my right so maybe this won't work for you but Lynn's instructions worked for me regardless of my artificial left hip and length issues.
Here is my driver swing. Notice how I am trying to let my Flail work past my body. Below is Curt Sanders hitting it uhmmm further and better.
He is a BEAST and the nicest guy. He hit this ball so hard that the ball blacked out several times and wobbled as it tried to bounce off a military jet going by. It just kept elevating!
Anyway, Curt seems to restrict his head as his Flail destroys the ball! Now Andy, I'm not Curt or Lynn or Daryl or OB or Ben...I'm just saying...
Now I met this gentleman Wayne Watts. He is a very nice guy and Assistant Pro at Cuscowilla. Gracious and talented. Watch how he Flails around ! Left heel up and down!
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Just did a speed read of Hogans two books, you know I think I like Power Golf the most...but Im thinkIng Hogan would attribute that foot work seen in that video to the Hips. I know Yoda would. for his own swing.
Just saying. The Feet and the Knees are Anchors. So much of the golf swing is an illusion.
Just did a speed read of Hogans two books, you know I think I like Power Golf the most...but Im thinkIng Hogan would attribute that foot work seen in that video to the Hips. I know Yoda would. for his own swing.
Just saying. The Feet and the Knees are Anchors. So much of the golf swing is an illusion.
I'm fine with however the right way to describe it happens to be. Since my legs were so immobile, it helps me to feel the feet moving. And I cannot feel my artificial left hip. I can turn my right hip all day but I have to be careful not to sling my shoulders over the top so I go right/left and let my left heel come up.
What about popping the right knee in? If I roll my right hip back and let the left heel come up will that establish the right shoulder on plane? I think it will. Lynn really explained the need to Trace the Base Line of the Plane and the independent movements of the Hips and Arms. I am envisioning picking my right arm straight up and Hitting but I do not want to wash my hands since shaking hands with Lynn, if you know what I mean.
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
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